WG WoT Discovery WebConf/2021

Agendas from 2021

13 December 2021

Last meeting of 2021.

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Kaz

Review Minutes
- 6 December 2021
Meeting logistics
- McCool has a conflict Jan 10 and cannot attend
PRs
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pulls
Issues
- TD Vocab for Discovery: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1033
- Others
AOB

6 December 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Christian

Review Minutes
- 29 November 2021
Logistics
- Meeting schedule
Review PRs
Review issues above and on repo
AOB

29 November 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Farshid

Review Minutes
- 22 November 2021
Review "Upcoming Issues", above
Review Issues and PRs
- Discuss XPath
- Terminology cleanup
TD/Thing ID issue
- Summary of point made in TD mtg: id is for a Thing, why don't TDDs just assign a local id for TDs stored in it?
- We discussed this (having "local ids" for the TDD record separate from the TD.id field) at length before. Reopening this would however require a major restructuring of the current discovery API, changes to implementations, etc. What to do?
Issue cleanup/schedule
- What can we close?
- What can we defer to Discovery 1.1/2.0?
- What do we have to finish before CR?
AOB

22 November 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Andrea

Review Minutes
- 15 November 2021
Review Issues and PRs
AOB

15 November 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Christian Glomb

Review Minutes
- 8 November 2021
JSON Path
- Use cases
- Current spec lacks regexes and any way to do substring compares
Review Issues and PRs
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/190
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/224
AOB

8 November 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Andrea

Review Minutes
- 1 November 2021
Review Issues and PRs
AOB

1 November 2021

Duration: 2h

Scribe: Kaz

Review Minutes
- 18 October 2021
Review Draft F2F Minutes
- 5 October 2021
- Action items:
  - Use of fragment identifiers in IDs to resolve "is ID that of TD or of Thing?" problem
    - Discussed here https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/190
    - See discussion of this issue also in the Oct 28 F2F minutes: https://www.w3.org/2021/10/28-wot-minutes.html#t07
      - But: see https://www.w3.org/Addressing/URL/4_2_Fragments.html
      - "Fragment identifiers do NOT address the question of objects which are different versions of a "living" object, nor of expressing the relationships between different versions and the living object."
      - Maybe use "?view=X" or something? Need to see if there is a mechanism for versioning in UUID or something.
Review Issues and PRs
AOB

25 October 2021

Cancelled due to F2F/TPAC

Not a direct conflict, but Kaz has other meetings that week that conflict
In general we have been asked to avoid scheduling WG meetings during TPAC week

18 October 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Farshid

Minutes
- 4 October 2021
- 20 September 2021
Action items from F2F
- JSONPath
  - simple version for narrow use case
    - https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/231
PRs
Review and label issues
- Resolve by CR
- Resolve prior to WD update labels
AOB

11 October 2021

Cancelled due to OpenDay conflict

4 October 2021

Duration: 1h Scribe: Christiano

Agenda:

Prep for F2F

27 September 2021

Cancelled due to plugfest

20 September 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Jan

Minutes
- 13 September 2021
PRs
Review and label issues
- Resolve by CR
- Resolve prior to WD update labels
AOB

13 September 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Andrea

Minutes
- 6 September 2021
(no PRs in wot-discovery)
Review and label issues
- Resolve by CR
- Resolve prior to WD update labels
AOB

6 September 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Andrea

Minutes
- 30 August 2021
Planning
- Timelines, priorities, testing, etc.
- Need a "review" release (WD Update) done by Sept 30
  - See issues marked with following labels
    - Resolve by CR
    - Resolve prior to WD update labels
Issues
AOB

30 August 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Christian

Minutes
- 26 July 2021
Geolocation
- TPAC joint session
- Liaisons (esp. OGC)
- Relationship to Smart City activity
- Document writing up current experience/proposal/references, etc.
Planning
- Timelines, priorities, testing, etc.
Issues and PRs
AOB

26 July 2021

Duration: 2h

Scribe: Andrea

Minutes
- 19 July 2021
Cancellation schedule
Timeline
- Publications
- Testing
Issues and PRs
AOB

19 July 2021

Duration: 2h

Scribe: Christian Glomb (first hour)

Minutes
- 12 July 2020
Publication of update
Issues and PRs
AOB

12 July 2021

Duration: 1h

Scribe: Farshid

Minutes
- 14 June 2020
- vF2F Minutes
Schedule
- Vacations in August
- 1h or 2h slots for next three weeks?
Issues and PRs
AOB

21 June 2021

Duration: 1h

CANCELLED

Scribe: Farshid

Minutes
- 14 June 2020
F2F Prep
PRs
AOB

14 June 2021

Scribe: Andrea

Minutes
- 7 June 2020
PRs
Schedule and next pub
F2F
Testing
- Results
- Plan
- Report
AOB

7 June 2021

Scribe: Cristiano

Minutes
- 31 May 2020
Quick updates
- WD update publication
Issues and PRs
Testing (Testfest)
AOB

31 May 2021

Scribe: Ben

Minutes
- 24 May 2020
Quick updates
- WD update publication
  - Diff
  - Changes section needs to be updated, otherwise ready
- TD Signature WIP
Issues and PRs
To Revise, Refactor, Restructure, or Redo
AOB

24 May 2021

Note: Holiday in Canada and Europe, having meeting anyway...

Scribe: Ege

Minutes
- 17 May 2020
Quick updates
- WD update publication
F2F planning
- Session subtopics for Discovery
Issues and PRs
- Pagination - https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/168
- Data Model/Ontology - https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/175
- Use of TD
- Others
Planning
- Next steps, priorities
AOB

17 May 2021

Scribe: Andrea

Minutes
- 10 May 2020
Quick updates
- WD update publication
Issues
PRs
Planning
- Next steps, priorities
AOB

10 May 2021

Scribe: Farshid

Regrets: Christian G

Minutes
- 3 May 2020
Quick updates
- WD update publication
Planning
- Schedule review
Issues and PRs
AOB

3 May 2021

Scribe: Daniel

Regrets: Christian G, Andrea

Minutes
- 26 April 2020
Quick updates
- WD publication update
- from TD TF: canonicalization
- from security TF: WIP, TD signing
Scripting
PRs
Testing
Issues
AOB

26 April 2021

Scribe: Christiano

Minutes
- 19 April 2020
Quick updates
- Resolution planned for April 28
PRs
Testing
Issues
AOB

19 April 2021

Scribe: Christian

Minutes
- 12 April 2020
Quick updates
Plan updates to working draft (for resolution April 28)
PRs
Issues
- desc
AOB

12 April 2021

Scribe: Kaz

Minutes
- 29 March 2020
- 8 March 2020
Quick updates
- S&P updates pending
- validation
  - we need to cite and select a level (intermediate? lower-intermediate: no extensions?)
- canonicalization
  - Pending, items to discuss
  - Plan B: store original string in directories still an option/safe fallback
Review pagination
- Blocked by anonymous TDs - see below
PRs and issues
- [https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/151 HTML formatting
- Anonymous TDs - blocker
Finalize draft update, call for review
AOB

29 March 2021

Decide on pagination
- Our own content-based approach
- Our own header-based approach, but which is quite similar to the following (HTTP protocol specific)
- Just use https://www.w3.org/TR/ldp-paging/ as-is.
- TD support for this generally? Eg "paginated" annotation for interaction

8 March 2021

Scribe: Farshid

Minutes
- 1 March 2021
Quick updates
- Scripting
  - Pagination API for TDs, support for small devices
  - Scripting API side needs to align with peer-to-peer Discovery network API
  - Small devices might want to extract TD fragments/elements
  - Maybe make JSONpath optional in peer-to-peer TD retrieval
  - Could be supported on either server or client side, or both
  - If producer does not support, then client could filter
  - Producer could return an error if does not support queries, consumer could retry by fetching full TD, then doing client-side filtering
  - Issues to be created (in both scripting and discovery, cross-ref)
Plugfest report out
Logistics
- F2F
- Cancellations
Issues and PRs
- Pagination
AOB

1 March 2021

Scribe: Andrea

Minutes
- 22 February 2021
Quick Updates
- Plugfest happening this week
Logistics
- Meeting cancellations during vF2F
- F2F agenda review
  - wiki
  - Review presentations week before F2F (March 8)
  - upload presentations here: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/PRESENTATIONS/2021-03-online-f2f
PRs
Planning
- Schedule
- Prioritization
  - Following is a summary of "hot topics", but details in issue tracker (use "Priority" label for things that definitely need to be in the pre-CR draft)
  - Directories
    - JSONPath queries - limiting JS scripts for security
    - SPARQL queries - RDF/JSON-LD framing, incl support for extensions
    - TTL
    - Validation spec for TDs
  - Peer-to-Peer
    - Query filters - @type keywords only
  - Introductions
    - Spec requirements, i.e. DNS-SD service names, DID resource types, etc.
  - Geolocation
    - Geolocation query filters on directories; and peer-to-peer?
    - Alignment with OGC information models and APIs
Issues
AoB

22 February 2021

Note: special 2h meeting today

Scribe: Christiano/Christian

Minutes
- 15 February 2021
Quick Updates
- Plugfest happening this week; Directory instances available? Projects?
Logistics
- Cancel meeting during plugfest week?
  - No, will have a 1h meeting, try to close on pagination (e.g. merge PR)
- F2F topics
  - wiki
  - Review presentations week before F2F (March 8)
PRs
- Resource Types for RD Introductions
- Security and Privacy Considerations
Issues
- Pagination
AoB

15 February 2021

Scribe: Farshid

Minutes
- 8 February 2021
Quick Updates
Logistics
- 2h slot to prep for F2F
- F2F agenda
PRs
Discussion
- Terminology (views, data models, information models, serialization)
  - https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/119
- Format of what is returned from discovery
  - additionalResponses - dataschemas per response?
  - Pagination - among TDs, within TDs
- Information model - changes?
- TD size limits and profiles
- Signing, canonicalization, validation, queries in P2P discovery
Issues
Ongoing
AOB

8 February 2021

Scribe: Christian

Minutes
- 1 February 2021
Quick Updates
Review Information Model
- Pagination/streaming (and impact on information model)
Issues and PRs
Ongoing
- WIP: Proposal for geolocation
- WIP: Security and Privacy Considerations for Discovery
AOB

1 February 2021

Scribe: Christine

Guests: Christine Perey is now an Invited Expert
Minutes
- 25 January 2021
Quick Updates
- OCG Liaison
Implementations
- Status and goals to get feature coverage
- Blockers: Frames
Issues and PRs
- Security and Privacy Considerations for Discovery
  - Requirement: encrypted TDs with visible (but periodically updated) IDs
AOB

25 January 2021

Scribe: Andrea

Guest: Christine Perey
Minutes
- 18 January 2021
- 11 January 2021 (did not review last time)
Quick Updates
- SDWIG/AR meeting report out
Testing planning
Issues and PRs
AOB

18 January 2021

Scribe: Cristiano

Guest: Christine Perey
Minutes
- 11 January 2021 (did not review... next time)
Schedule and Publication Requirements
- 1 July, 2021: Target CR Transition (need implementation PLAN)
- 1 September, 2021: Target PR Transition for all publications (need implementation REPORT)
Quick Updates
- Meeting tomorrow with SDWIG/AR groups
Issues and PRs
- Geospatial queries format and use cases (including AR)
AOB

11 January 2021

Scribe: Farshid

Minutes
- 4 January 2021
Issues and PRs
AOB

4 January 2021

Scribe: Jack

Minutes
- 7 December 2020
Scheduling
Issues and PRs
AOB