W3C

WoT Discovery

18 January 2021

Attendees

Present
Andrea_Cimmino, Christian_Glomb, Christine_Perey, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
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Chair
McCool
Scribe
cris

Meeting minutes

Guests

Kaz: we have Christine as a guest

Schedule and publication requirements

McCool: about implementation report do you need it before PR transition?

Kaz: yes, we need implementation plan the report for PR but we need to provide the implementation report plan including the assertions for CR.

McCool: (noting down deadlines in the agenda)

<McCool> Thing Description implementation report

McCool: (showing example of an implementation report)

McCool: I have to deal with the fact that need to generate test cases for our assertions

McCool: failures are not a big problem as long as we have a least two passing implementations.

McCool: some features cannot be test automatically. Manual assertion cover this use-case. Implementers just state that they comply with a particular feature of the specification

Farshid: could we maybe script all of this tests? maybe with Github Actions?

McCool: you can't always test all the assertion in the specification. However automated testes are useful. We can talk about it. First I'll try to adapt the work done in TD assertion testing.
… the next plug fest is a good place to start talking about how to improve our testing workflow

McCool: last year we prepared a list of failing tests as a implementation plan

Farshid: for linksmart thing directory we have already a bunch of unit tests. Also the APIs are covered

Joint meeting on AR use cases

<kaz> Issue 955 on the joint meeting about AR use cases

McCool: tomorrow we'll have a meeting with Spatial Data on the Web IG

McCool: there's a meeting link in issue 955 of wot repository

Christine: which IRC channel should we use?

McCool: I'll propose wot-uc

Christine: agree

McCool: this meeting is more on AR
… Christine brought up differences in how geospatial queries are done in AR
… I hope to discuss about it tomorrow
… by the way AR = Augmented Reality. Digital objects are overlaid on a real world video
… about the Geolocation queries I was thinking about a point-radius method.
… but in AR field of view is more relevant

Christine: It is important to instruct users where is the device. (i.e., device behind you; turn around to interact)

Christine: we use the terms of 6 degree of freedom when we are referring to if the user can look up or down.
… body area networks have tons use-cases in industrial use-cases

McCool: it is the problem of the "semantic" locations (i.e., arm, leg, living room...)

McCool: ideally there are two orthogonal problems. Geospatial should work regardless "semantic" locations.

Kaz: robotics and Autonomous vehicles are typical use-cases.

McCool: I'll catch more input tomorrow and I report them in a PR or document.

McCool: any other issues to discuss?

Farshid: there're some comments

Issue 54

<kaz> Issue 54 - Need to define the added Directory TD vocabulary

McCool: issue #54

McCool: terms for TD should go to the Thing Description document

Farshid: should we had to the TD context
… or another context?

McCool: it should be another context

Cristiano: I agree

McCool: (capturing the statement in a comment)

McCool: we can close combo scheme issue

McCool: I am currently working other PRs for security. I worked also for alternateResposes.

McCool: about #43, how to identify a directory from a TD?

<kaz> Issue 43 - Define the WoT-Directory type somewhere (eg in new version of context, in 1.1)

McCool: we could check a context file used
… but it is a bit implicit. it is better to use the type keyword
… we could use both.
… but it doesn't stop others to use our terms for their goals
… I prefer to move the type to the core TD vocabulary.

Cristiano: my point is that we need the context file anyway

McCool: probably is best to talk with TD task force

McCool: I'll cross reference the isse there

Farshid: remember that we need a type for links.

McCool: is there an issue about this topic?

Farshid: yes it is.

<kaz> Issue 54

McCool: any more issues to be linked in the issue?

Farshid: yeah the full list is already in the first issue

<kaz> TD Issue 1033 - Consider defining additional vocabulary supporting Discovery

PR 110

<kaz> PR 110 - Update README.md to point at WOT-Usecases repo

McCool: we have a PR from Christine. However, she hasn't the permission to contribute

McCool: We'll ping sebastian to propose her as an Invited expert

PR 109

<kaz> PR 109 - Correct combo scheme

Farshid: #109 just a minor edit

McCool: it is fine, merged

PR 107

<kaz> PR 107 - Update SPARQL DDoS ed note

McCool: #107 needs more discussion

<kaz> [adjourned]

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