See also: IRC log
<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
<Lisa_Seeman> action katie to do GPA on online payments
<trackbot> Error finding 'katie'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Debra Ruh and katie to do GPA on online payments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Ruh and katie to do gpa on online payments [on Debra Ruh - due 2015-06-22].
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: steve to do GPA on personlization group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-114 - to do gpa on personlization group [on Steve Lee - due 2015-06-22].
<Lisa_Seeman> next item
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Mike_Pluke
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: jamie to perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-115 - Perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [on Jamie Knight - due 2015-06-22].
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: neil to perform gap analisis on distractions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-116 - Perform gap analisis on distractions [on Neil Milliken - due 2015-06-22].
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: mike to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> 'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: mike P to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> 'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Mike Pluke with rich to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> 'Mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Mary Jo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Mary Jo Mueller to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<Lisa_Seeman> next item
<Lisa_Seeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Jun/0031.html
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: maryjom to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action10]
<trackbot> Error finding 'maryjom'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
Chaohai described progress on the Symbol users with Speech, Language and Literacy Difficulties - Issue Paper
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: maryjo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html#action11]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-117 - Perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/wai/pf/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/gap_analysis [on Mary Jo Mueller - due 2015-06-22].
No disagreemen with two solutions proposed in the Issue Paper
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
<Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#content-structure-separation
Looking at the Gap Analysis issues for the "Proposed Solutions"
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis#Items_where_New_techniques_are_WCAG_2.0_required
For solution 1 (aria-concept) the relevant SC appears to be 1.3.1 Info and Relationships. The above link captures this point in the Gap Analysis document.
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances.x
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances
Discussion on the concerns about Flat Design.
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#be-predictable
NIDR discussion emphasised consistency of positioning(of buttons etc.) is important
<JamieKnight> http://m.bbc.co.uk
Interesting BBC finding. In search people expect a box to type in and a button. When just provide a button many people thought that search was removed.
<Lisa_Seeman> debra rue was on the call
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