IRC log of coga on 2015-06-15

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15:32:00 [RRSAgent]
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15:32:23 [Lisa_Seeman]
zakim, this will be WAI_CogTF
15:32:23 [Zakim]
ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 28 minutes
15:33:45 [Lisa_Seeman]
regrets: John Rochford, Steve Lee, , E.A. Draffan, susann Keohane
15:34:17 [Lisa_Seeman]
agenda: this
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agenda+ review actions, and timelines
15:34:20 [Lisa_Seeman]
agenda+ issue papers
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agenda+ techniques
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agenda+ be done
15:36:52 [Lisa_Seeman]
action katie to do GPA on online payments
15:36:52 [trackbot]
Error finding 'katie'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
15:38:10 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: Debra Ruh and katie to do GPA on online payments
15:38:11 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-113 - Ruh and katie to do gpa on online payments [on Debra Ruh - due 2015-06-22].
15:38:53 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: steve to do GPA on personlization group
15:38:54 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-114 - to do gpa on personlization group [on Steve Lee - due 2015-06-22].
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next item
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
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16:08:07 [Lisa_Seeman]
scribe: Mike_Pluke
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
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16:16:13 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html
16:16:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: jamie to perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html>
16:16:38 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-115 - Perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [on Jamie Knight - due 2015-06-22].
16:16:50 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
16:18:50 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: neil to perform gap analisis on distractions
16:18:50 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-116 - Perform gap analisis on distractions [on Neil Milliken - due 2015-06-22].
16:20:26 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: mike to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:20:26 [trackbot]
'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
16:22:09 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: mike P to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:22:09 [trackbot]
'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
16:22:28 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: Mike Pluke with rich to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:22:28 [trackbot]
'Mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
16:23:40 [janina_]
present+ janina
16:24:32 [ddahl]
present+ Debbie_Dahl
16:25:14 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: Mary Jo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:25:14 [trackbot]
Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:25:43 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: Mary Jo Mueller to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:25:43 [trackbot]
Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:25:55 [Lisa_Seeman]
next item
16:26:27 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Jun/0031.html
16:27:04 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: maryjom to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:27:04 [trackbot]
Error finding 'maryjom'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:27:31 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:33:42 [Mike_Pluke]
Chaohai described progress on the Symbol users with Speech, Language and Literacy Difficulties - Issue Paper
16:34:17 [Lisa_Seeman]
action: maryjo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:34:17 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-117 - Perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/wai/pf/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/gap_analysis [on Mary Jo Mueller - due 2015-06-22].
16:34:21 [Lisa_Seeman]
q?
16:35:35 [Mike_Pluke]
No disagreemen with two solutions proposed in the Issue Paper
16:35:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:37:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#content-structure-separation
16:37:46 [Lisa_Seeman]
q?
16:39:32 [Mike_Pluke]
Looking at the Gap Analysis issues for the "Proposed Solutions"
16:41:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis#Items_where_New_techniques_are_WCAG_2.0_required
16:44:21 [Mike_Pluke]
For solution 1 (aria-concept) the relevant SC appears to be 1.3.1 Info and Relationships. The above link captures this point in the Gap Analysis document.
16:44:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
q?
16:46:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances.x
16:46:29 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances
16:51:21 [Mike_Pluke]
Discussion on the concerns about Flat Design.
16:56:00 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#be-predictable
16:56:09 [Mike_Pluke]
NIDR discussion emphasised consistency of positioning(of buttons etc.) is important
16:58:52 [JamieKnight]
http://m.bbc.co.uk
17:01:08 [Mike_Pluke]
Interesting BBC finding. In search people expect a box to type in and a button. When just provide a button many people thought that search was removed.
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17:02:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
debra rue was on the call
17:02:36 [Lisa_Seeman]
rrsagent, make logs public
17:02:57 [Lisa_Seeman]
rrsagent, create minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
17:03:40 [Lisa_Seeman]
zakim, please part
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17:03:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
rrsagent, please part
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I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Debra Ruh and katie to do GPA on online payments [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T15-38-10
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ACTION: steve to do GPA on personlization group [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T15-38-53
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ACTION: jamie to perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-16-37
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ACTION: neil to perform gap analisis on distractions [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-18-50
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ACTION: mike to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-20-26
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ACTION: mike P to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-22-09
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ACTION: Mike Pluke with rich to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-22-28
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ACTION: Mary Jo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [8]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-25-14
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ACTION: Mary Jo Mueller to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [9]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-25-43
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ACTION: maryjom to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [10]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-27-04
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ACTION: maryjo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [11]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-34-17