W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

14 May 2015

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
+1.813.410.aaaa, aphillip, Steve_Atkin, Richard, +1.408.536.aabb, Leandro, JcK, David
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
aphillip

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-440?

<trackbot> action-440 -- Richard Ishida to Follow up with daniel about ethiopic information -- due 2015-05-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/440

close action-440

<trackbot> Closed action-440.

richard: did this, waiting for a response from him

action-441?

<trackbot> action-441 -- Richard Ishida to Write back to fantasai/csswg and propose a way to organize layout information -- due 2015-05-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/441

richard: did chat with fantasai, need to type up results

close action-441

<trackbot> Closed action-441.

Info Share

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar

richard: put "rangefinder" into radar?

addison: will do

richard: adding some of your guidelines to document, will post soon
... just throwing them in, not "carefully crafting"
... "you have been warned"
... counter styles: plan to change hebrew
... css will reissue and we'll need to track
... some updating on articless
... use of <b> and <i>
... syncing text quotes from html5 to the document
... message remains the same

Process Change for Working Group

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#last-call

addison: proposal to change this WG to the 2014 process

<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind working group to read new process document for adoption voting at next week's teleconference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-442 - Remind working group to read new process document for adoption voting at next week's teleconference [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-05-21].

organizing layout information

richard: fantasai from css
... asked if we can warehouse information about non-latin script
... specifically justification rules
... how this or that script does it
... sounds reasonable
... doing this in layout requirements
... other information outside layout reqs tho
... could make small documents for other scripts
... but when you get lots and lots of documents it gets harder to maintain/keep track of
... thing to point to might be wiki

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Typography

richard: above wiki page points to different requirements and spec descriptions and tests and such
... also external information as well
... for latin and non-latin
... ideas for how to move forward?
... possibility of getting an ethiopic layout requirements document

addison: desire for an arabic script document

richard: was approached at IUC about possibility, might get back to that

<scribe> ACTION: richard: contact interested parties about starting an Arabic script layout task force [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-443 - Contact interested parties about starting an arabic script layout task force [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-05-21].

richard: if you know about information about non-latin script, please send links

Review pending comments

Media Capture and Streams

https://www.w3.org/International/track/products/78

issue-464?

<trackbot> issue-464 -- 'label' needs direction and language metadata ⓟ -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/464

issue-465?

<trackbot> issue-465 -- Human readable message not localizable? ⓟ -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/465

Generating JSON from tabular data

https://www.w3.org/International/track/products/79

issue-466?

<trackbot> issue-466 -- Can JSON data be generated from non UTF-8 encoded CSV data ⓟ -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/466

steve: no mention if csv has to be encoded in utf-8
... model allows legacy encodings

addison: implicit conversion
... not even Encoding spec, since they support *any* encoding

richard: should have health warning about conversion

steve: "be explicit"

issue-467?

<trackbot> issue-467 -- What are the rules for string equality when column names are matched with annotations ⓟ -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/467

steve: can have names in columns
... what are the rules for identifier equality?
... no statement
... normailized or not?

issue-468?

<trackbot> issue-468 -- Do Unicode Strings get normalized when placed into JSON data ⓟ -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/468

steve: when generating json data, are they normalizing?
... no mention
... NFC required? or implementation detail?

addison: 1. use a normalizing transcoder
... 2. don't normalize text already in a unicode encoding

steve: will propose text
... probably all of this appliable to the RDF spec too

Web payments use cases

richard: sent an email out

<r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2015AprJun/0057.html

richard: items I found were not specifically i18n
... will send these along

Character Model

http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2015AprJun/0059.html

addison: reorder sections

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2015AprJun/0061.html

wildebeest->resource

namespace->vocabulary

addison: will post changes this week

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind working group to read new process document for adoption voting at next week's teleconference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: contact interested parties about starting an Arabic script layout task force [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
 
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