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HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

09 Apr 2015

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Attendees

Present
paulc, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, IanPouncey, Adrian_Roselli, Joanmarie_Diggs, LJWatson, JF, Liam, Judy, janina, Cynthia_Shelly
Regrets
Chair
Janina Sajka
Scribe
LJWatson, liam

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 09 April 2015

<LJWatson> scribenick: LJWatson

Any more items?

JS: Items?

action items?

https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open

action-308?

<trackbot> action-308 -- John Foliot to Talk to josh about "discuss hybrid extended/inline case." - expand please -- due 2015-03-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/308

JF: Haven't been able to get in touch with Joshue.

action-312?

<trackbot> action-312 -- Léonie Watson to Review bug 27054 and check it's ok -- due 2015-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/312

LW: It's done, can be closed.

<janina> trackbot, close action-312

<trackbot> Closed action-312.

CfCs and calls for response

JS: Doodle poll open for a TF meet in Europe in June/Jul.
... We need to review work statement that Chaals posted yesterday, but no CFC.

PC: I ussued the CFC for work statement and CFC procedure to the HTML WG. Don't think you have to wait for anything.

JS: Good.

PC: Thought the TF was going to put out a CFC on the alt texts doc?

JS: Yes, apologies, I dropped the ball on that one.

face to face meetings…

JS: There will be a meeting in Seattle. Now is the time to co-ordinate/do last minute planning.

PC: Would like to know when the TF would like to join the Media TF to talk about transcript.
... Media TF meeting may be finished by Thursday.

JF: Suggest Thurday morning - to give us time to prepare on the Wed, so we don't waste the Media TF's time.

PC: To be safe, I suggest 4pm Wednesday?

JF: Sounds reasonable to me.

+1

PC: I've included all the TF members in my food estimates for Wed and Thu. Guess we should co-ordinate timing for breaks/meals?

CS: Thank you. We're also meeting Friday, but I can figure that.
... An agenda would be useful, although informal is good.

JS: Useful for remote participation.

CS: Will send out an email.

Let's try to cover some technical work. Progress anywhere?

) Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress

JS: I had an action to advise the Canvas list about progress, but haven't and it's two weeks old.

RS: Dominic says he has it working, but sent him test results from our failed tests and haven't had a reply.

JS: I will get the action done in the next day or so.

RS: That included hit testing. Firefox was also close, so need to check there too.

PC: Are we confident enough to know whateditorial resources are needed to fix the Level 1 stuff?

RS: There is one tweak we need to make to the draft.

PC: Let's not conflate Last Call publication with getting it perfect.

RS: Ok.

PC: If we're close to implementation, wouldn't it make sense to start the LC process?
... I'll take an action to talk to the Canvas editors.

<scribe> ACTION: Paul Cotton to talk to Canvas editorial/editors about starting the LC process. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-313 - Cotton to talk to canvas editorial/editors about starting the lc process. [on Paul Cotton - due 2015-04-16].

HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives

JS: We have a stub. I need to put out the CFC. Apologies, I will get this done.

Media Task Force F2F meeting potential A11Y topics

<paulc> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2015-04-Agenda#Agenda_April_15

<paulc> We will do the transcript item at 4pm on Wed Apr 15 at the Media TF F2F

Let's try to cover some technical work. Progress anywhere?

JS: There is work to look at Web VTT.
... Don't think we want to work on this on this call.

JF: We need to take a look at it with the Media sub-team, and that still seems like a good approach.
... Have n action in PF to look at draft screen capture. It's a little scary - it seems to be capturing pixels but not DOM information.

JS: How long on that CFR?

PC: The FPWD was published in November.

JS: They're in LC now, no?

<paulc> http://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt1/

PC: This link indicates FPWD.

<JF_> notes that the FPWD under discussion is related to WebVTT

<paulc> W3C First Public Working Draft 13 November 2014

s/Web VTT FPWD was /FPWD was /

<paulc> Draft Community Group Specification 16 February 2014 http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/e0a5a82bd5be3501e7649a949fcce4c7b83a427c.html

PC: This is being worked on in the CG and WG at same time, and it seems there is a more recent doc from the CG.
... Sorry, red herring - the doc is 2014 not 2015.
... Still, a review would be appreciated and the person to communicate with is David Singer.

JF: Sounds like the Media sub-team should meet - with Web VTT and Transcript on the radar.

JS: Yes.

<paulc> See also Sylvia's work at WebVTT support in browsers

<paulc> http://www.webvtt.org/

PC: You might also look at Silvia's Web VTT support in browsers work.

<paulc> See https://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/2015/02/22/implementation-status/

JF: Will try to find a little time in next week's F2F agenda.

https://specs.webplatform.org/common-panel/bkardell/gh-pages/

<liam> scribenick: liam

what panels?

LJWatson: from an interaction point of view a lot of similarities between different metaphors

accordians, notebook tabs ,carousels

so this draft looks at coming up with some native elements & attributes.

Right now we're coming up with use cases & requirements

We could use TF help with fleshing those out,, with wider review in a11y and html

JF: in the note i sent out yesterday I'd indicated this was something for the F2F next week

panels and panel sets, kbd interaction/access-keys, and transcripts.

[and possible additional item from Cynthia]

joanie: why is this not a dialogue?

LJWatson: a dialogue appears over the top of existing content where this would be part of a page, not a pop-up

[example use case of message at driving licence centre regarding renewal]

LJWatson: on access keys there's a Wiki page for requirements

Rich: wondering about whether the access element is a non-starter, can we talk about it at the F2F?

<paulc> F2F info: https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2015-04-Agenda

<scribe> scribenick: LJWatson

CS: We'll have demos from the Windows team during the F2F.
... Will send out suggested agenda, but need people to add other items.

<JF_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist

JF: There's the HTML5.1 wishlist.
... Was looking at media descriptions, believe it may be solved by aria-describedat.
... Suggest there are things for an agenda next week. For example Flipnote.

JS: Hold up, we're waiting for feedbac on that so we just need to wait.

JF: Real Time Chat, Web payments...
... Emotion ML... There are names associated, but no actual action. Perhaps we should poke?

JS: Ideas for moving them forward would be good.

JF: Suggest agenda time next week to look at the wishlist.

CS: Good idea.

+1

JS: Given the F2F, propose this meeting not happen next week but that people remotely participate in the F2F if they can.

PC: Has anyone arranged for tele-conference facilities?
... I'll send you the request information. Should be someone on the team that does it.

JS: Liam and I can make the zakim request.

LQ: Yes, but I'll have to do it today.

JS: What's the agenda time - 9am to 5pm? 6pm?

<liam> I'll request zakim for wed thur fri 9-6 PDT, any preferred code?

CS: 9am to 6pm.

<liam> 8:30-6 OK

LQ: Preferred code?

JS: Participant numbers?
... Guess 8 will be sufficient.

CS: Yes.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Paul Cotton to talk to Canvas editorial/editors about starting the LC process. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
 
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