W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

12 Feb 2015

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Steve, Dennis, Koji, Leandro, Somnath_(via_IRC)
Regrets
Felix, JcK
Chair
Addison Phllips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-113?

<trackbot> action-113 -- Richard Ishida to Work on tidying up Additional Requirements for Bidi in HTML & CSS over coming couple of months -- due 2015-02-05 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/113

richard: done but for final prep
... and a few summaries
... sent email to Aharon asking for text
... haven't heard back yet
... did a lot of work on it

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/html-bidi-requirements/editme.html

addison: public review?

richard: no, just updating status

addison: all, look it over.

richard: tbds for missing stuff
... added the google doc as an appendix
... updated links
... checked html quotes
... should be close

action-363?

<trackbot> action-363 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up with membership on hackathon planning for (e.g.) iri/idn or encoding tests -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/363

addison: will write something

action-364?

<trackbot> action-364 -- Richard Ishida to Document how "sticky" language negotiation is done in our pages as an article -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/364

richard: in progress

action-399?

<trackbot> action-399 -- Dennis Tan Tanaka to Update article "an introduction to multilingual web addresses" -- due 2015-02-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/399

dennis: working on it

<scribe> ACTION: richard: send source text for "intro to web addresses" to Dennis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-401 - Send source text for "intro to web addresses" to dennis [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-02-19].

action-400??

<trackbot> action-400 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up with new es-402 owner for status of es i18n work -- due 2015-02-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/400

close action-400

<trackbot> Closed action-400.

addison: wrote to rick waldron
... will write again for further status

Info Share

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

Steve: looked over linked data patch
... schedule for upcoming call

addison: add to next week's agenda

Steve: will shepherd Latin Layout Requirements

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar

qa-no-language needs update

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Feb/0008.html

http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-no-language-alt

richard: would like to publish and make live, unless someone has comments?
... basically I brought it up to date
... pushed XML and XML Schema out to "advanced topics"
... said that lang couldn't be null, but you can in HTML5 so now fixed

objections to publishing?

(none noted)

<scribe> ACTION: richard: make new version of qa-no-language live [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-402 - Make new version of qa-no-language live [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-02-19].

XLST 3.0 I18N-ISSUE-394

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27615

<scribe> ACTION: addison: write to xslt folks asking if bug 27615 is likely to be addressed, e.g. do they have plans for a future edition [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-403 - Write to xslt folks asking if bug 27615 is likely to be addressed, e.g. do they have plans for a future edition [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-02-19].

Charmod-Norm edits

http://www.inter-locale.com/w3c/charmod-norm-20150207.html#unicodeControls

addison: made these edits
... Applications -> specification

richard: applications too. much of the pain is when doing e.g. in page search
... may have different case for identifiers
... IDN bans these

addison: stringprep removes them?
... need to add a section to searching block

richard: pass by unicode

dennis: utr46 discusses a few of these
... idna 2003 v. 2008 different for ZWJ, ZWNJ, etc.
... can check if they are valid in IDNA

<scribe> ACTION: dennis: check on zwj and friends in IDNA so that we can document in charmod-norm [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-404 - Check on zwj and friends in idna so that we can document in charmod-norm [on Dennis Tan Tanaka - due 2015-02-19].

addison: will word smith, add requirement for string searching

LTLI updated draft?

http://www.inter-locale.com/w3c/ltli/LTLI.html

addison: further edits of the top section with definitions
... would like to publish new WD soon-ish

Bopomofo/zhuyin accent positioning

Indic script initial cap

richard: sent response (see on public-i18n-indic list) asking more question of somnath

<r12a> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-indic/2015JanMar/0020.html

<somnath> need few days time for resolving feedback from richard. early next week possible

thanks somnath

time zone thread on www-international@

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2015JanMar/0058.html

addison: in this thread cameron jones suggests using bcp47 language tags for time zone

AOB?

koji: at last tpac
... notes for justification

richard: is this about where to put notes about justification and that sort of thing?

<Leandro> Need to sign out - til next week

richard: fantasai said it would be nice to have a wiki about that
... we have two things

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Improving_typography_on_the_Web_and_in_eBooks

richard: first a wiki page pointing to requirements, specs, and tests at w3c

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Improving_typography_on_the_Web_and_in_eBooks#Alignment_and_justification

richard: that's tying existing documents

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Layout_links

richard: more recently I made the above
... which is waiting to be filled in, really
... parking space for information about typography
... so two articles about justification in arabic currently
... three if you count urdu
... if anyone on this call or reading minutes have additional information
... but layout of latin or non-latin scripts
... want to make sure they are good/reliable articles
... but welcome input

koji: wasn't clear from tpac minutes what kind of articles were discussed

richard: this is more recent

koji: what kind of documents you were discussing?

addison: need to refresh our memories

<DennisTan> I have to drop off. Thank you and good bye

richard: created first as a "checklist" for layout requirements
... offshoot from visit to china
... second wiki I did because of ebook discussion
... been meaning to do something
... not a response to tpac

<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: write to xslt folks asking if bug 27615 is likely to be addressed, e.g. do they have plans for a future edition [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: dennis: check on zwj and friends in IDNA so that we can document in charmod-norm [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: make new version of qa-no-language live [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: send source text for "intro to web addresses" to Dennis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/12-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
 
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