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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

13 Nov 2014

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Leandro, David, JcK
Regrets
Felix, Steven, Mati, Bobby?, Dennis
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
aphillip

Contents


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<trackbot> Date: 13 November 2014

<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-354?

<trackbot> action-354 -- Richard Ishida to Ask css to change font spec example so kai is cursive not serif (or use an appropriate example font like song for serif) -- due 2014-10-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/354

close action-354

<trackbot> Closed action-354.

close action-355

<trackbot> Closed action-355.

action-362?

<trackbot> action-362 -- Leandro Reis to Share information about public knowledge base materials for use on w3c site -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/362

leandro: need info from richard about where to put stuff

richard: are they on the web at the moment?

leandro: not public

richard: how many files? could you zip and send?

leandro: can zip, won't look same, but will send to you

Info Share

richard: three new members
... since last call
... one is Bobby Tung from Taiwan
... working on CLReq
... Ethan Chen
... also working on CLReq
... Leslie Sikos

<scribe> chair: welcome new members

<bobtung> Hi,

richard: also in contact with some people from Huawei
... hope to have members from them
... and possibly Adobe India

RADAR

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

addison: added webvtt
... and utr51 emoji
... any shepherd

discuss making chinese groups aware of each other

JcK: don't know if this is a deep discussion issue
... subtle chinese language issues
... CN NIC
... and others
... email addresses and headers
... chinese name presentation group
... simplified vs. traditional presentation issue
... and ?? body with chinese ISO member standards for books/ebooks which overlaps with some of this
... not an expert, but think it would help if we introduced people

richard: are ISO folks part of CESI?

JcK: need to look back at b cards and such
... send me a note to find out?

richard: pass names along to Beihang??
... Beihang team and AnQi in particular, collaborating quite closely with CESI
... need to figure out how to produce W3C deliverable from that

<scribe> ACTION: JcK: send richard coordinates for standards folks in China related to ebooks, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-367 - Send richard coordinates for standards folks in china related to ebooks, etc. [on John Klensin - due 2014-11-20].

addison: what about email addresses folks?

JcK: may interact with URI/URL/etc. problem
... not up to date about what happened at TPAC
... invention of weird encodings to get around problems

richard: think Dennis would be interested

<scribe> agenda: Dennis: ping JcK about Chinese people working on EAI

<scribe> ACTION: Dennis: ping JcK about Chinese people working on EAI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-368 - Ping jck about chinese people working on eai [on Dennis Tan Tanaka - due 2014-11-20].

<scribe> agenda: action 363

action-363?

<trackbot> action-363 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up with membership on hackathon planning for (e.g.) iri/idn or encoding tests -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/363

addison: summarizes discussion at tpac
... need a location, date, and time

richard: think we might need to talk to felix or dennis, as it was their suggestion?

leandro: felix, I think

Updating the format for articles

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Nov/0003.html

http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-navigation-select-temp.en

richard: do not want to get into design by committee mode :-)
... didn't arise from reading the article you mentioned but from someone else's blog
... using a very open font
... Roboto or Helvetica Neue
... easier to read, less dense
... does make you scroll more
... must read rather than "scan"
... but easier on eye
... so think we go ahead?

<David> I like the sample, it even looked good and readable on my Android phone's default browser.

<scribe> ACTION: richard: change style sheets to new format for articles and tutorials et al. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-369 - Change style sheets to new format for articles and tutorials et al. [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-11-20].

LTLI draft

action-359?

<trackbot> action-359 -- Addison Phillips to Revive ltli (language tags and locale identifiers) -- due 2014-11-06 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/359

http://www.org/TR/ltli

http://inter-locale.com/w3c/ltli/LTLI.html

addison: converted to respec and changed references
... need serious work to clean up

What happened at TPAC and IUC38?

Leandro: TPAC was a great experience, very helpful
... understand better how we relate to other groups and how we work
... thanks richard and addison, et al

JcK: minutes were more of an "aide memoire" to participants than helpful to outsiders not there
... would appreciate more summary

richard: plan to trawl the minutes for more of a summary
... unicode went really well
... one of the best in a while

addison: +1

AOB?

richard: read through TPAC minutes and check next steps
... next week might be a good time to discuss more deeply
... what happened in TPAC

<scribe> ACTION: addison: recreate and keep up to date the "things we're working on" list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-370 - Recreate and keep up to date the "things we're working on" list [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-11-20].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: recreate and keep up to date the "things we're working on" list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Dennis: ping JcK about Chinese people working on EAI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: JcK: send richard coordinates for standards folks in China related to ebooks, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: change style sheets to new format for articles and tutorials et al. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
 
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