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Zakim: this is MWI_WBMB
:D
<dom> schuki, the mail you sent the other day for the meeting said 2pm UTC, but http://www.w3.org/wiki/Mobile/Meetings says 3pm UTC; which is it?
2pm!
<dom> so I missed it then?
wait, is it 3pm now?!
i was going by cal
<dom> it will be 5min from now
yes yes!!!
<dom> oh, calendar has it as 3pm too
no no 3pm then
<dom> ok good :)
HI CRUD DAYLIGHT SAVINGS
hopefully people will have your more helpful cal entry!
<dom> trackbot, prepare meeting
<trackbot> Date: 12 November 2014
<marcosc> hakim, who is here?
<dka> will dial
marcosc: mournir made a
permissions api proposal
... this should address the discussion of the gelocation
api
... during tpac the geolocation wg some privacy issues were
rasied
... mounir thinks we should deal with these
... hopefully then we can filter this into dap
dom: how does this deal with alex russell's issues
marcosc: not sure, we asked TAG about this
<dka> ?
<dom> A Plan For Permission-Requesting APIs
<dka> what historical time-frame of TAG positions are we talking about for geo privacy?
marcosc: dom asked the tag about permissions and apis
dka: alex produced a doc with this
<dom> A Plan For Permission-Requesting APIs
dka: there was a question with
data minimisation with the api a while ago
... this came up at the privacy discussion at tpac
there is no formal doc about this
<dka> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/APIMinimization.html
marcosc: ah the async thing
dka: latest tag work is in this
permissions doc
... alex russell produced
... we would like feedback
schuki: i'll send to the group
marcosc: the model alex is
proposing is the initial request
... mounir's is after
... so what you do after a permission has been denied
<dka> Also of note: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-privacy-minutes.html
<dka> Privacy IG minutes from TPAC.
<dka> Where among other things doucments relating to privacy reviews are discussed.
<marcosc> schuki: we are looking if there are legal issues around the API. We are seeing if it's feasible and if it can be done in an interoperable manner. So initially, we are just looking at experimenting and producing guidelines.
<marcosc> schuki: so we would like to do some implementation work before we push for standardization
dka: some feedback is that data
plans are very different so there would be a lot of
complexity
... so using this could be hard
... the q is: how can we boil this down into the top things app
developers want?
marcosc: browser side we may need
to have some operators that can provide this, and some
can't
... this could be a disruptive feature
... so this could be seen as a competitive advantage
<dka> makes sense
<dka> :)
<Zakim> dom, you wanted to discuss deeper network info api
dom: some convesations are going
on privately,
... an API giving info on how the network is being operated
would be good
<dka> +1 to “softly softly” approach.
marcosc: it would be great to
show it working with one / few operators
... then show it working
marcosc: no update ;.;
... still hopeful this will happen soon
schuki: we still looking at sharing maps urls?
marcosc: this has happened, so not much has changed since the last call
<marcosc> schuki: want to talk to some people about what we should do in the next few months
<marcosc> schuki: was hoping to get more use case and requirements from the group
<marcosc> schuki: been talking to people here at the IETF about the importance of the data API work
<marcosc> schuki: it would be great to see if anything come out of the TPAC sessions with regards to new work. Wanted to also have another look at Dom's API gap to see if there is new work opportunities there.
<marcosc> ACTION: Natasha and Dom to coordinate on new work items [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/12-webmob-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-105 - And dom to coordinate on new work items [on Natasha Rooney - due 2014-11-19].
schuki: i'll setup a call with dom to discuss
<dka> booo
<dka> :/
marcosc: stepping down as chair from this group in december
<dka> yay
marcosc: but i will be back! after 4 months!
<dka> ciao
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