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<trackbot> Date: 27 February 2014
<Frans_EBU_> +41 is Frans
<nigel> scribeNick: jdsmith
<nigel> nigel: explains about scribing a bit
<scribe> new topic: Charter
action 268 to be done after this meeting.
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action-268: to be done after this meeting.
<trackbot> Notes added to action-268 Estimate timelines for ttml 2 deliberables with glenn.
<plh> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2014JanMar/0038.html
plh: jerry should ping Mike Champion on charter review
<nigel> action-244?
<trackbot> action-244 -- Pierre-Anthony Lemieux to Proceed with work to investigate deltas. if time doesn't allow the fallback is to remove annex a. -- due 2013-12-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/244
action-244?
<trackbot> action-244 -- Pierre-Anthony Lemieux to Proceed with work to investigate deltas. if time doesn't allow the fallback is to remove annex a. -- due 2013-12-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/244
<nigel> issue-295?
<trackbot> issue-295 -- Remove code point restrictions from IMSC -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/295
currently pending review
glenn: previously commented about the action being exhaustive. fine with current wording.
<nigel> close action-244
<trackbot> Closed action-244.
any objections to closing? None.
action-257?
<trackbot> action-257 -- Pierre-Anthony Lemieux to Create a new issue to split these out for tracking. -- due 2014-01-23 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/257
nigel: see this is now
closed.
... mentions issue-300.
<nigel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Jan/0017.html
nigel: minutes just posted have discussion on this issue previously
<glenn> ISSUE-300: see also minutes at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Jan/0017.html
<trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-300 Prior interpretation of the correct fallback for tts:origin.
<glenn> ACTION-257: see also ACTION-259
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-257 Create a new issue to split these out for tracking..
nigel: note added to connect issue-259
<glenn> ACTION: previous note should read ISSUE-259, not ACTION-259 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/27-tt-minutes.html#action01]
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<glenn> ACTION-257: previous note should read ISSUE-259, not ACTION-259
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-257 Create a new issue to split these out for tracking..
issue-282?
<trackbot> issue-282 -- Need to add missing named character entities. -- pending review
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/282
nigel: propose we close issue-282
<glenn> ACTION: glenn to implement issue-282 changes on TTML2 text also [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/27-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-269 - Implement issue-282 changes on ttml2 text also [on Glenn Adams - due 2014-03-06].
<tmichel> yes can close 282 for TTML1 errata
glenn: agree that issue can be closed.
<nigel> close issue-282
<trackbot> Closed issue-282.
<plh> action-203?
<trackbot> action-203 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to Investigate 708 border style mapping issues with mike's help -- due 2013-09-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/203
plh: updated to discuss css
text-shadow compared to TTML textOutline property.
... remaining to do is review windowBorder - anyone interested
in pursuing that?
mike: should be "no", since there is no windowBorder property in 708.
glenn: border property was added to TTML2.
mike: borders do in fact exist, with similar shadow settings.
SMPTE 2052-11 has mappings, if we care.
mike: 708 is another big spec
with a subset required by US law. It suggests that applying
border properties on characters only is adequate.
... can safely say that no-one authors border shadows.
glenn: might be good to have a mapping appendix that references 2052-11.
plh: suggest we close action-203.
<glenn> ACTION: glenn add informative appendix to ttml2 on subject of 708 mapping, where it refers to ST2052-11 as starting point, and provides place to extend or elaborate mapping information [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/27-tt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-270 - Add informative appendix to ttml2 on subject of 708 mapping, where it refers to st2052-11 as starting point, and provides place to extend or elaborate mapping information [on Glenn Adams - due 2014-03-06].
<nigel> action-203: Regulation does not require support for 708 window border property; text outline already present in TTML2 draft. Therefore decision is to close this action with no further edits at this time.
<trackbot> Notes added to action-203 Investigate 708 border style mapping issues with mike's help.
<nigel> close action-203
<trackbot> Closed action-203.
<glenn> see updated overdue actions https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/overdue
nigel: back to overdue actions.
glenn: have a pending review action to discuss
action-267?
<trackbot> action-267 -- Glenn Adams to Fix notes on action-56 and issue-165 to refer to ttml2 changeset -- due 2014-02-13 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/267
glenn: notes fixed to reflect changeset
<nigel> close action-267
<trackbot> Closed action-267.
one overdue action remaining
action-256?
<trackbot> action-256 -- Pierre-Anthony Lemieux to Review wording on issue-259 proposed solution and suggest alternate wording for consistency with existing profile documents -- due 2014-01-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/256
nigel: no update, so anything to discuss on it?
pal: not sure if action-256 is required at this point.
glenn: might still be useful to make a suggestion on alternate wording.
pal: alternate wording was actually proposed after this action was created.
nigel: agree. closing appears to be appropriate.
action-256: see note added january 16 by pal on issue-259.
<trackbot> Notes added to action-256 Review wording on issue-259 proposed solution and suggest alternate wording for consistency with existing profile documents.
close action-256
<trackbot> Closed action-256.
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<nigel> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015
nigel: added box-decoration-break with some examples, and font face rule.
glenn: box-decoration-break has
been delayed by CSS WG, would present problems for us to
pursue.
... may want to draft an email for nigel as chair to send to
CSS WB.
WG...
<nigel> action nigel to draft email to CSS WG chair requesting box-decoration-break in CSS3
<trackbot> Created ACTION-271 - Draft email to css wg chair requesting box-decoration-break in css3 [on Nigel Megitt - due 2014-03-06].
nigel: comments on font face rule?
glenn: obviously intended to support downloadable fonts syntax.
nigel: have suggested a mapping in change proposal 15.
glenn: might be simplied to using a single URL rather than multiple.
nigel: any other business before close?
<plh> regrets for next week
<glenn> standby 1min
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