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HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

11 Apr 2013

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Attendees

Present
Janina_Sajka, Judy_Brewer, Léonie_Watson, Mark_Sadecki, John_Foliot, Michael_Cooper
Regrets
Chair
Janina_Sajka
Scribe
Léonie Watson

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 11 April 2013

<janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference

Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

Upcoming HTML & PF F2F http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda

<scribe> scribe: Léonie Watson

JS: The F2F is coming up. Meetings with Web Apps and HTML WG.
... We're looking at alt bugs that the Text sub-team has surfaced.
... Web Apps has a draft that we're interested in from an accessibility angle.
... It may be an API for CJK input.

JF: Tab Atkins proposed Cascading Attribute Sheets (CAS).
... It abstracts an element's attributes into a separate sheet, then hooks them to the element via the class attribute.
... Think it has potential for ARIA and/or accessibility.
... Wonder whether we should go back to Tab and/or Web Apps to say we've looked at it?

JS: Recall some email traffic on the TF list a while back.
... Think focus now will be hard whilst we get ARIA 1.0 to the finishing line.
... So think we're looking at ARIA 2.0.

JF: CAS can embrace more than ARIA, so think it might be a potential HTML5.1 feature.

Longdesc Reminder http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2013JanMar/0148.html

JS: No discussion, but please be mindful that this specification extension is out there.
... We're running this on a tight timetable. We'd like to move it to LC as soon as the W3C process permits, as soon as two weeks away.

TF Publication Process Redux http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html

JS: FYI we have worked up a written statement of what our publications are.
... Now is a good time to perfect it. Comments welcome.

Media Followup

JS: Following the conversation with Mark Watson last week, has anyone had the opportunity to look at the documents relating to this?
... Does anyone has the URI?
... Do we need alternative media to be encrypted?
... We'll need to return to this.
... Can we keep it a technology issue by duing due dilligence on where the alternative media might need to be encrypted?

JB: You can encrypt the main media in such a way that access with a screen reader is perceived to be an attack.

JF: The DAISY Consortium has a policy around DRM, are there any documented difficulties with that policy?

JS: No, not really.

JF: I asked Mark about transcripts.
... My concern is the animosity that exists around this topic. Suggest we look at the use cases. Don't want to create a problem that doesn't exist though.

JS: A recent thread the phrase "late binding" came up. Needing to support a third party that supplies content after the original source is released.
... I think this helps us.

JF: If media source A uses encryption method A, but the alternate content is encrypted using encryption method B, the result could be messy.

JS: That's what the HTML5 spec is intended to get aay from.
... The W3C is creating a tool, it's technology/encryption agnostic.
... Having two encryption methods for the the original content and its alternate content wouldn't be conformant.

JF: But the encryption APIs would be conformant.

JS: Could you look into this and put some concrete information together around it?

JF: Sure.

JS: First, do we have a need to encrypt an alternate media source?
... Second, how should that alternate be encrypted?

JB: We need some background and some specific information to proceed on.

Text Bugs (Continued)

<MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827

MS: We'd like the text to be removed, but want to checkwith Steve that it isn't being addressed through his work with Robin.

JS: Accepted.

<MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10455

MS: Raised in response to the deprecation of longdesc. Recommend closing now Image Description extension is FPWD.

JS: Accepted.

<MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10853

MS: Also raised in response to longdesc being deprecated. Recommend closing it.

JB: Suggest we're clear about the exact status change we're making.

<MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10967

MS: Another longdesc related bug. Recommend closing it.

JF: This bug includes content like video, audio etc. None of these are covered by the current Image Description extension.

JS: We're confident that current browser and AT longdesc implementations will see the Image Description extension through LC and into the full spec.
... If we extend its remit, that may not happen. We should get longdesc back into the spec then extend its capability.
... Should e postpone it?

LW: Suggest we open a fresh bug when the time comes. We can add space in the bug triage area of the wiki so it doesn't drop off our radar.

<Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/describekeywords.cgi

JS: Good idea.

JF: Suggest using reviewerSatisfied keyword.

Summary of Action Items

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