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<trackbot> Date: 14 November 2012
<nvdbleek1> zik, who is here?
<alain> Zakil, I am [IPcaller]
Steven: Next week Nick and I are
meeting to edit the spec, Tues, Wed, Thursday.
... Hopefully with lots to say Weds at the call.
... And wrap up Thursday with any luck.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2012Nov/0000.html
Steven: Small typo that I posted to record it and make sure we fix it next week.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2012Nov/0000.html
Steven: Not yet replied to
Alain: I did something on this
Steven: Is this an XForms issue?
Alain: Yes, what should we do with a required field being empty
Nick: Different implementations do different things
Steven: I'm inclined to say this
is how implementations can differentiate themselves
... I don't see easily how you could do this in CSS
Nick: With AVT's you can work around it
Steven: You mean you could have a
class on a parent element saying whether submit had been
pressed or not.
... You could have a styling that is more like a warning, such
as a red background saying that it is required but empty
Nick: Some implementions have a flag saying whether a field has been visited.
Steven: You could smuggle a use of :visited
<nvdbleek1> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/CSS_Classes
Steven: that's only defined for links; we could extend its use to fields
<nvdbleek1> Orbeon: xforms-required, xforms-required-filled
<nvdbleek1> xforms-invalid, xforms-visited xforms-invalid-visited
<nvdbleek1> xforms-visited
<ebruchez> (BTW xforms-invalid-visited was there only for IE6 which didn't support combining CSS classes)
Steven: Is xforms-visited used for fields in Orbeon?
Erik: Yes.
Steven: That works.
Nick: In the email, he wanted it
just after the submission
... then you'd have to do a trick with an AVT
... I didn't understand what Alain did in XSLTforms
Alain: It works without an extra
class, it works programmatically
... the node is invalid after a validation error
... I'll reply.
http://blog.orbeon.com/2012/11/optimizing-event-handling.html
Erik: The idea is to do the most
you can. XML Events allows you to avoid redoing a lot of the
work
... we preprocess and cache information about the event
paths
... improving event dispatch
... We actually do it lazily the first time an event is
dispatched
... it is especially useful when you have hundreds of events
dispatched
Steven: Sounds like an interesting conference paper
[No link]
Steven: Maybe we should ask people to plan to post something, maybe one person a week
Steven: There will be a call next week
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