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TT Working Group

30 Aug 2012

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Attendees

Present
[Microsoft], mike, sean, pierre, andrew, Geoff_Freed
Regrets
plh
Chair
Sean
Scribe
mmartin3

Contents


<plh> regrets for the call unfortunately

<plh> stuck in other meetings

Present

Andrew_Kirkpatrick, mike, sean, pal, mmartin3

<AWK> I give up!

Chair

Sean Hayes

First public working draft

First Public Working Draft

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html

mmartin3: Patent URI, fontFamily, HTML cleanup completed.

sean: Explain new strings for fontFamily

mmartin: Add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference?

sean: Add placeholder.

Create ACTION: Glenn add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference.

mike: Handle Glenn's comments.

sean: Yes.

pal: FPWD is not final?

<pal> is the scope of changes limited against a FPWD?

<scribe> ACTION: Glenn add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-06].

Resolved to move SDP-US to FPWD.

<scribe> ACTION: Glenn move SDP-US to FPWD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Move SDP-US to FPWD. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-06].

sean: Hold on resolution for one comment from Glenn? re: description on character edge.

<scribe> ACTION: Monica Provide description for character edge. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Provide description for character edge. [on Monica Martin - due 2012-09-06].

Change Proposal001

http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001

Modifications to set attribute to take a block of elements.

sean: Modifications to set attribute to take a block of elements.

<pal> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002

Resolution: Accepted Change Proposal001 http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001

<scribe> ACTION: Glenn integrate http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 to TTML 1.1. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Integrate http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 to TTML 1.1. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-06].

Change Proposal002

sean: Extent and origin on p
... Move to accept.

mike: Some questions.
... What is origin relative to?

sean: Root container (Glenn's change).

mike: Can be outside of container?

sean: Anonymous region.
... Follow semantics.

mike: TTML 1.0 is precise but difficult to follow path to using solution.

Need more prose?

mike: Specify anonymous region.

sean: Will craft language to explain processing in an informative way.

mike: Need to have normative rather than informative language.

sean: Normative is step 6. Add text.

mike: Add definition of origin and extent?

sean: Editor craft language 8.2.14

mike: Describe intent particularly origin.

sean: Add more text.

pal: Agree with proposal but agree with Mike on more language.
... Relative to region?

sean: Glenn said original proposal was too complicated.

pal: Discuss positioning.

sean: For simplicity, assume global coordinates not relative to the parent container.

mike: Inherit region properties.

Add information to articulate this.

pal: Agree.
... Background color associated with p?

sean: Yes.
... Will work on more normative propose about positioning.

mike: Section 8

sean: Section 9.3.3 is normative and put more text in Section 8.

pal: Asks about how to apply opacity to default region.
... How to set opacity?

sean: Should create information to handle this.

<scribe> ACTION: Sean to do revisions to proposal http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002 that explains positionig. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Do revisions to proposal http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002 that explains positionig. [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-09-06].

<scribe> ACTION: Sean Do revisions to proposal that explains opacity. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Do revisions to proposal that explains opacity. [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-09-06].

mike: How to animate region?
... Animate at head?

sean: Handled in proposal 1.

mike: What if apply to region or block?

sean: Addressed by Proposal 1.

awk: What happens if identify region and does specify the origin?

sean: If no named region, everything goes to default. If you don't specify a region, text is pruned.

Won't work on some documents.

?ACTION-80

ACTION-80?

<trackbot> ACTION-80 -- Monica Martin to create statement of use case and regional naming on SDP -- due 2012-08-16 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/80

ISSUE-179?

<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- Interpreting the pixel measure -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/179

sean: Please review.

Meeting times best for Editor.

sean: Speak with Glenn.
... Pixel metric defined for XSL.

Doesn't mean device pixels but audio.

mike: Question what knowledge is available for authoring?

sean: We may be making conformance changes to address px measure.
... Remove reference to XSL pixel.

mike: Add language that if an author fails to put extent on root container, behavior is application defined.

<scribe> scribe: mmartin3

scribe mmartin3

close meeting

close this meeting

trackbot, close meeting

<trackbot> Sorry, mmartin3, I don't understand 'trackbot, close meeting'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

trackbot, end meeting

plh, are you here?

<plh> in an other meeting

<plh> but can kind of read here

ok.

I generated the minutes but had the order backwards to close the meeting. I am uncertain if it generated the actual minutes.

Getting better. :>

thanks

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Glenn add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Glenn integrate http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 to TTML 1.1. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Glenn move SDP-US to FPWD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Monica Provide description for character edge. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Sean Do revisions to proposal that explains opacity. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Sean to do revisions to proposal http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002 that explains positionig. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action05]
 
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