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<scribe> Scribe: Olivier
<chrislowis> Zakim: ??P2 is me
<Alistair> :)
<chrislowis> heh
<chrislowis> One day I'll learn!
<Alistair> Olivier, you with us today?
yup, getting ready
<gcardoso> thanks
<chrislowis> olivier: want me to scribe?
chrislowis: nah, that's ok for today
<chrislowis> olivier: cool.
Alistair: there's been quite a lot of discussion on this on the list
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JanMar/0405.html
<roc> passcode not working :-(
Al: what Joe mentioned is that
there would be a need to sync input and output in a
frame-accurate manner
... many ways to do beat detection
<tmichel> pass code is audio#
Al: is "automatically analyse" may be too much?
Olivier: wrote the UC in terms of what could be done, not necessarily what the API could do
Thierry: looked at your proposal
… I think it's good
… not trying to add use cases if they are not useful, but I think this is a nice UC which anyone can understand
… comes from a real use case from a discussion with my daughter
… happy that we are merging with UC-13
Al: agree it has appeal to musicians, not just audio professionals
Olivier: trying to keep the use cases doc short because I'd like us to document how our APIs will satisfy the use cases
Doug: are we really working for performance musician?
CLowis: with upcoming web-based operating systems, and likewise on smartphones, there are tons of such musician-focused applications
… not browser as an instrument but as a platform to help musicians
Olivier: agree with Chris - and
I've also seen smartphones used as performance
instruments
... if everyone happy with it I will add that text to UC-13
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JanMar/0393.html
Olivier: is this related? (I can't quite understand it)
Al: yes it is related
… Grant has been making game emulators with sounds, very impressive
… he's making interesting arguments about performance
… the gist of what he is suggesting is that the Web Audio API does not provide him with the tools he needs for this application
… might be good to get Grant on a call
Doug: could be good to get more info about what he needs
… be clearer than the current e-mail
http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements#UC-15:_Video_commentary
Olivier: do we need to explicitely add as a requirement the need to capture audio from a video stream?
<tmichel> I beleive UC 15 is a new UC introducing use of audio from a video. Not yet introduces in other UC
Al: I thought we might have had it from the other use cases
<tmichel> I think we should keep this UC 15
Al: already captured in UC 12?
ROC: what is not captured in UC-12 is the need to stay in sync with the video
<tmichel> right.
… and the ducking effect is interesting because it is very common
Al: so do we want to merge this with UC-12 or have a different one
ROC: would seem artificial to merge the two
Olivier: I think it makes sense to add a requirement to add effects to the audio part of a video stream, and keep it in sync with the video playback
… that requirement would match UC-15 and UC-1
<scribe> ACTION: olivier to add new requirement to "add effects to the audio part of a video stream, and keep it in sync with the video playback" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/19-audio-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Add new requirement to "add effects to the audio part of a video stream, and keep it in sync with the video playback" [on Olivier Thereaux - due 2012-03-26].
Al: as an aside, have been contacting companies doing HTML5 gaming. One of them reviewed the specs - am in the process of encouraging them to send that feedback to the group
http://www.w3.org/TR/webaudio/
(re-published as WD)
Thierry: we've complied with a rule which makes sure we update our spec to show progress
Olivier: next big chunk of work on this spec will be to make sure we solve dependencies with other groups
Thierry: we should contact at least the HTML group and WebRTC group to tell them about this new WD
Olivier: volunteers to contact those groups?
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to contact HTML, WebRTC and webapps group, point to new WD of Web Audio API [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/19-audio-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Contact HTML, WebRTC and webapps group, point to new WD of Web Audio API [on Doug Schepers - due 2012-03-26].
<Alistair> zakin, take up agendum 4
Olivier: would like to know if this is an issue or "just a conversation"
CRogers: we discussed this a while ago
… seems like Jussi said he was OK with it
… would be good to make sure he's ok with it and move on
Olivier: will ask Jussi and we can record the resolution
Thierry: TPAC in Lyon
… we need to answer by April 30th whether we will meet there
http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/Overview.html
Olivier: think it would be good to meet f2f
… so question would be "how many times can we reasonably meet again f2f this year?"
… and if so, when
Thierry: would be good to meet when we are dealing with last call comments
Al: would be happy to meet earlier than TPAC
… US would be easier
Doug: agree f2f is useful - also agree it is time consuming and expensive
… would be happy to meet before TPAC
Olivier: should we poll the group to see who could make it to TPAC
<scribe> ACTION: Olivier to start poll to see if group members could be at TPAC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/19-audio-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-40 - Start poll to see if group members could be at TPAC [on Olivier Thereaux - due 2012-03-26].
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