Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 02 February 2012

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120202
Seen
Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Biplav Srivastava, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Christophe Gueret, Dan Gillman, Daniel Vila, Deirdre Lee, Elena Montiel Ponsoda, Fadi Maali, George Thomas, Ghislain Atemezing, John Sheridan, John Erickson, Michael Hausenblas, Michael Pendleton, Phil Archer, Richard Cyganiak, Ronald Reck, Sandro Hawke, Sarven Capadisli, Stasinos Konstantopoulos, Tina Gheen, Unknown cygri.a, Yigal Arens
Chair
George Thomas
Scribe
Michael Hausenblas
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. The GLD WG decides to publish 'Terms for describing people' in the first batch of FPWD by end of Feb 2012 link
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15:03:23 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

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15:03:23 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

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15:03:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:03:24 <trackbot> Date: 02 February 2012
15:03:39 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:03:41 <Zakim> + +3539149aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aaee

15:03:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, +1.202.566.aaaa, Sandro, ??P26, [LC], +3539149aacc, +1.202.691.aadd, ??P14, +3539149aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, +1.202.566.aaaa, Sandro, ??P26, [LC], +3539149aacc, +1.202.691.aadd, ??P14, +3539149aaee

15:03:57 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me

15:03:57 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it

15:03:57 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaee is me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, aaee is me

15:03:58 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas; got it

15:04:01 <fadi> zakim, +35391 is me

Fadi Maali: zakim, +35391 is me

15:04:04 <Zakim> +fadi; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +fadi; got it

15:04:11 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is Mike_P

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, aaaa is Mike_P

15:04:12 <Zakim> + +34.91.336.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.91.336.aaff

15:04:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:04:19 <Zakim> +Mike_P; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Mike_P; got it

15:04:24 <boris> zakim, aaff is boris

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, aaff is boris

15:04:28 <Zakim> +boris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it

15:04:33 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aadd is DanG

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, aadd is DanG

15:04:36 <Zakim> +DanG; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DanG; got it

15:04:44 <Zakim> +Sandro.a

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro.a

15:04:46 <BenediktKaempgen> \me also connected through skype

Benedikt Kaempgen: \me also connected through skype

15:04:50 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

15:05:14 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller]

15:05:31 <olyerickson> Zakim, I am IPCaller

John Erickson: Zakim, I am IPCaller

15:05:31 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I do not see a party named 'IPCaller'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, olyerickson, I do not see a party named 'IPCaller'

15:05:44 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:05:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, Mike_P, ??P26, tinagheen, fadi, DanG, ??P14, mhausenblas, boris, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, Mike_P, ??P26, tinagheen, fadi, DanG, ??P14, mhausenblas, boris, Sandro

15:05:53 <mhausenblas> Zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me

15:05:53 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it

15:06:27 <csarven> Zakim, I'm with mhausenblas

Sarven Capadisli: Zakim, I'm with mhausenblas

15:06:27 <Zakim> +csarven; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +csarven; got it

15:06:45 <Zakim> +??P53

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P53

15:06:57 <mhausenblas> Zakim, mute ??P26

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, mute ??P26

15:06:57 <Zakim> ??P26 should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ??P26 should now be muted

15:07:17 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P14 is olyerickson

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, ??P14 is olyerickson

15:07:17 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

15:07:23 <mhausenblas> Zakim, unmute ??P26

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, unmute ??P26

15:07:23 <Zakim> ??P26 should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ??P26 should no longer be muted

15:07:47 <fadi> zakim, mut eme

Fadi Maali: zakim, mut eme

15:07:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'mut eme', fadi

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'mut eme', fadi

15:07:53 <fadi> zakim, mute me

Fadi Maali: zakim, mute me

15:07:53 <Zakim> fadi should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadi should now be muted

15:07:54 <DeirdreLee> mhausenblas, I must be P26 or 53

Deirdre Lee: mhausenblas, I must be P26 or 53

15:07:59 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120202
15:08:07 <olyerickson> zakim mute me

John Erickson: zakim mute me

15:08:09 <mhausenblas> Chair: George
15:08:13 <dvilasuero> zakim, dvilasuero is with boris

Daniel Vila: zakim, dvilasuero is with boris

15:08:13 <Zakim> +dvilasuero; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +dvilasuero; got it

15:08:14 <Mike_P> can folks mute their phones

Michael Pendleton: can folks mute their phones

15:08:14 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas

(Scribe set to Michael Hausenblas)

15:08:24 <mhausenblas> Zakim, mute ??P53

Zakim, mute ??P53

15:08:24 <Zakim> ??P53 should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ??P53 should now be muted

15:08:29 <cgueret> Zakim I'm on the phone too

Christophe Gueret: Zakim I'm on the phone too

15:08:47 <George> PROPOSAL: The GLD WG decides to publish 'Terms for describing people' in the first batch of FPWD by end of Feb 2012

PROPOSED: The GLD WG decides to publish 'Terms for describing people' in the first batch of FPWD by end of Feb 2012

15:09:00 <mhausenblas> Topic: FPWD

1. FPWD

15:09:18 <Zakim> + +1.218.296.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.218.296.aagg

15:09:18 <mhausenblas> Michael: available via https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html

Michael Hausenblas: available via https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html

15:09:25 <rreck> rreck

Ronald Reck: rreck

15:09:29 <rreck> i just joined

Ronald Reck: i just joined

15:09:30 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aagg is rreck

Zakim, aagg is rreck

15:09:30 <Zakim> +rreck; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it

15:09:35 <olyerickson> I looked at the draft/proposal; very good!

John Erickson: I looked at the draft/proposal; very good!

15:09:44 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aahh

15:10:08 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aahh is gatemezi

Zakim, aahh is gatemezi

15:10:08 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi; got it

15:10:34 <olyerickson> I thought mhausenblas' "Terms for describing people" a good step forward

John Erickson: I thought mhausenblas' "Terms for describing people" a good step forward

15:10:59 <mhausenblas> Michael: Tried to focus on UC to determine scope and then we can figure what is in scope

Michael Hausenblas: Tried to focus on UC to determine scope and then we can figure what is in scope

15:11:00 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:11:08 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

15:11:13 <olyerickson> zakim unmute me.

John Erickson: zakim unmute me.

15:11:14 <mhausenblas> ack olyerickson

ack olyerickson

15:11:34 <mhausenblas> olyerickson: good start, Michael, UC help

John Erickson: good start, Michael, UC help

15:11:41 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

15:11:43 <mhausenblas> George: agreed

George Thomas: agreed

15:11:48 <cgueret> fantastic :)

Christophe Gueret: fantastic :)

15:11:51 <olyerickson> zakim mute me.

John Erickson: zakim mute me.

15:11:54 <dvilasuero> great job mhausenblas

Daniel Vila: great job mhausenblas

15:11:56 <dvilasuero> +1

Daniel Vila: +1

15:11:56 <Zakim> +??P58

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P58

15:11:57 <olyerickson> +1 to proposal

John Erickson: +1 to proposal

15:12:04 <George> +1 to proposal

George Thomas: +1 to proposal

15:12:06 <boris> +1

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1

15:12:10 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P58 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P58 is me

15:12:10 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

15:12:11 <dvilasuero> +1 to proposal

Daniel Vila: +1 to proposal

15:12:40 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:12:59 <BenediktKaempgen> +q

Benedikt Kaempgen: +q

15:12:59 <BenediktKaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+

15:13:08 <Zakim> + +1.323.683.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.323.683.aaii

15:13:19 <gatemezi> q?

Ghislain Atemezing: q?

15:13:25 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:13:32 <Yigal> zakim aaii is me

Yigal Arens: zakim aaii is me

15:13:54 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaii is Yigal

Zakim, aaii is Yigal

15:13:54 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it

15:13:59 <csarven> +1

Sarven Capadisli: +1

15:14:15 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION:  The GLD WG decides to publish 'Terms for describing people' in the first batch of FPWD by end of Feb 2012

RESOLVED: The GLD WG decides to publish 'Terms for describing people' in the first batch of FPWD by end of Feb 2012

15:14:26 <olyerickson> Everything we're doing is currently "subject to revision"

John Erickson: Everything we're doing is currently "subject to revision"

15:14:50 <mhausenblas> Topic: People UC

2. People UC

15:15:00 <mhausenblas> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html

15:16:27 <cygri> zakim, code?

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, code?

15:16:27 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), cygri

15:16:39 <olyerickson> Comment: These are use cases appropriate to our government context

Scribe problem: the name 'Comment' does not match any of the 60 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Yosuke Funahashi Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Deirdre Lee Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck Dave Reynolds John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Eric VonColln Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Comment: These are use cases appropriate to our government context [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

15:16:44 <Zakim> +??P61

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P61

15:16:48 <cgueret> +q

Christophe Gueret: +q

15:16:49 <mhausenblas> Michael: Tried to identify UC from real-world apps or datasets

Michael Hausenblas: Tried to identify UC from real-world apps or datasets

15:16:53 <cygri> zakim, ??P61 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P61 is me

15:16:53 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

15:17:12 <mhausenblas> Michael: Tried to derive requirements from it

Michael Hausenblas: Tried to derive requirements from it

15:17:15 <cgueret> -q

Christophe Gueret: -q

15:17:20 <mhausenblas> ack BenediktKaempgen

ack BenediktKaempgen

15:17:24 <cgueret> ack me

Christophe Gueret: ack me

15:17:25 <mhausenblas> BenediktKaempgen: where to contribute

Benedikt Kaempgen: where to contribute

15:17:27 <mhausenblas> Michael: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Terms_for_describing_people

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Terms_for_describing_people

15:18:11 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:18:15 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

15:18:18 <olyerickson> what happened?

John Erickson: what happened?

15:18:23 <cygri> zakim, P0 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, P0 is me

15:18:23 <Zakim> sorry, cygri, I do not recognize a party named 'P0'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cygri, I do not recognize a party named 'P0'

15:18:25 <Zakim> -Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal

15:18:32 <cygri> zakim, ??P0 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P0 is me

15:18:32 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

15:18:46 <sandro> cygri, you brought a loud tone with you.

Sandro Hawke: cygri, you brought a loud tone with you.

15:18:50 <Zakim> +Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal

15:19:06 <cygri> sorry. my voip thingy crashed. hope it didn't take zakim with it

Richard Cyganiak: sorry. my voip thingy crashed. hope it didn't take zakim with it

15:19:20 <mhausenblas> George: any immediate input for the People ED?

George Thomas: any immediate input for the People ED?

15:20:22 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:20:40 <BenediktKaempgen> +q

Benedikt Kaempgen: +q

15:20:58 <mhausenblas> Michael: I guess for the FPWD we should focus on the UC and req - will also cover existing vocabs review

Michael Hausenblas: I guess for the FPWD we should focus on the UC and req - will also cover existing vocabs review

15:21:04 <mhausenblas> ack BenediktKaempgen

ack BenediktKaempgen

15:21:09 <olyerickson> I think the aspects that will be very useful will be people w.r.t. agencies

John Erickson: I think the aspects that will be very useful will be people w.r.t. agencies

15:21:28 <olyerickson> zakim mute me.

John Erickson: zakim mute me.

15:21:36 <mhausenblas> BenediktKaempgen: How do you know if we cover the most interesting UC

Benedikt Kaempgen: How do you know if we cover the most interesting UC

15:21:37 <sandro> zakim, mute olyerickson

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute olyerickson

15:21:37 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted

15:21:41 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

15:21:47 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:21:59 <cygri> zakim, unmute me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, unmute me

15:21:59 <Zakim> cygri should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri should no longer be muted

15:22:06 <sandro> zakim, mute cygri

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute cygri

15:22:06 <Zakim> cygri should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri should now be muted

15:22:12 <sandro> cygri, still the loud tone.

Sandro Hawke: cygri, still the loud tone.

15:22:18 <cgueret> :)

Christophe Gueret: :)

15:22:20 <mhausenblas> ack cygri

ack cygri

15:22:25 <sandro> zakim, mute cygri

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute cygri

15:22:25 <Zakim> cygri should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri should now be muted

15:22:40 <olyerickson> Examples would be (a) elected representatives (b) officials at agencies

John Erickson: Examples would be (a) elected representatives (b) officials at agencies

15:22:40 <cygri> i'll redial. �

Richard Cyganiak: i'll redial. �

15:22:46 <Zakim> -cygri.a

Scribe problem: the name 'cygri.a' does not match any of the 60 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Yosuke Funahashi Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Deirdre Lee Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck Dave Reynolds John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Eric VonColln Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri.a

15:23:04 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

15:23:07 <cygri> olyerickson, this is a software phone.

Richard Cyganiak: olyerickson, this is a software phone.

15:23:11 <olyerickson> zakim unmute me.

John Erickson: zakim unmute me.

15:23:14 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:23:25 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

15:23:27 <mhausenblas> George: dataset driven seems useful

George Thomas: dataset driven seems useful

15:23:30 <mhausenblas> ack olyerickson

ack olyerickson

15:23:37 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

15:23:43 <mhausenblas> olyerickson: two kinds of people and relations

John Erickson: two kinds of people and relations

15:23:53 <mhausenblas> ...  (a) elected representatives (b) officials at agencies

... (a) elected representatives (b) officials at agencies

15:23:53 <cygri> zakim, ??P0 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P0 is me

15:23:53 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

15:23:55 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:24:42 <mhausenblas> olyerickson: also need to check re ORG vocab re instance data

John Erickson: also need to check re ORG vocab re instance data

15:24:50 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:25:13 <mhausenblas> ack cygri

ack cygri

15:25:20 <sandro> zakim, mute cygri

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute cygri

15:25:20 <Zakim> cygri should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri should now be muted

15:25:21 <olyerickson> zakim mute me.

John Erickson: zakim mute me.

15:25:23 <cygri> oh well.

Richard Cyganiak: oh well.

15:25:40 <Zakim> -cygri.a

Scribe problem: the name 'cygri.a' does not match any of the 60 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Yosuke Funahashi Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Deirdre Lee Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck Dave Reynolds John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Eric VonColln Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri.a

15:26:05 <cygri> regarding where use cases come from:

Richard Cyganiak: regarding where use cases come from:

15:26:27 <cygri> a good use case is something that you or your organization want to do anyways

Richard Cyganiak: a good use case is something that you or your organization want to do anyways

15:26:29 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

15:26:40 <cygri> and that would benefit from, or be enabled by, a standard vocabulary

Richard Cyganiak: and that would benefit from, or be enabled by, a standard vocabulary

15:26:46 <stasinos> Zakim, P0 is stasinos

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: Zakim, P0 is stasinos

15:26:46 <Zakim> sorry, stasinos, I do not recognize a party named 'P0'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, stasinos, I do not recognize a party named 'P0'

15:26:52 <stasinos> Zakim, ??P0 is stasinos

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: Zakim, ??P0 is stasinos

15:26:52 <Zakim> +stasinos; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +stasinos; got it

15:26:55 <cygri> e.g., for ORG:

Richard Cyganiak: e.g., for ORG:

15:27:11 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:27:15 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:27:17 <olyerickson> ACTION: olyerickson to follow-up on "elected officials" and "agency officials" concern

ACTION: olyerickson to follow-up on "elected officials" and "agency officials" concern

15:27:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Follow-up on "elected officials" and "agency officials" concern [on John Erickson - due 2012-02-09].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-46 - Follow-up on "elected officials" and "agency officials" concern [on John Erickson - due 2012-02-09].

15:27:29 <cygri> “we want to publish an organigram of our government in machine-readable form so that different ppl can visualize it in different ways”

Richard Cyganiak: “we want to publish an organigram of our government in machine-readable form so that different ppl can visualize it in different ways”

15:27:33 <olyerickson> zakim mute me.

John Erickson: zakim mute me.

15:27:55 <mhausenblas> Michael: We're trying to standardise the behaviour of publishers, hence should be driven by stuff that exists out there

Michael Hausenblas: We're trying to standardise the behaviour of publishers, hence should be driven by stuff that exists out there

15:27:55 <sandro> gatemezi, I think there was talking in the background where you are.

Sandro Hawke: gatemezi, I think there was talking in the background where you are.

15:29:16 <Zakim> +??P65

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P65

15:29:24 <cygri> zakim, ??P65 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P65 is me

15:29:24 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

15:29:25 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:29:44 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:29:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, Mike_P, ??P26, tinagheen, fadi (muted), DanG, olyerickson, mhausenblas, boris, Sandro, ??P53 (muted), rreck, gatemezi (muted), BartvanLeeuwen,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, Mike_P, ??P26, tinagheen, fadi (muted), DanG, olyerickson, mhausenblas, boris, Sandro, ??P53 (muted), rreck, gatemezi (muted), BartvanLeeuwen,

15:29:48 <Zakim> ... cygri (muted), Yigal, stasinos, cygri.a

Zakim IRC Bot: ... cygri (muted), Yigal, stasinos, cygri.a

15:29:48 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, BenediktKaempgen, csarven

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, BenediktKaempgen, csarven

15:29:48 <Zakim> boris has boris, dvilasuero

Zakim IRC Bot: boris has boris, dvilasuero

15:29:56 <olyerickson> zakim, please mute me.

John Erickson: zakim, please mute me.

15:29:56 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted

15:30:28 <mhausenblas> cygri: Best UC are the ones that are done or planned and require a standardised way to represent it

Richard Cyganiak: Best UC are the ones that are done or planned and require a standardised way to represent it

15:31:05 <mhausenblas> ... for example, for QB, take some spread sheets, need to publish, etc.

... for example, for QB, take some spread sheets, need to publish, etc.

15:31:13 <mhausenblas> Michael: I agree with Richard

Michael Hausenblas: I agree with Richard

15:31:23 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:31:40 <cgueret> +1 to move to next topic

Christophe Gueret: +1 to move to next topic

15:31:57 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

15:32:00 <olyerickson> I have nothing to add. Note that I added an action for myself...

John Erickson: I have nothing to add. Note that I added an action for myself...

15:32:10 <mhausenblas> Topic: DCAT Product status review/discussion

3. DCAT Product status review/discussion

15:32:20 <cygri> zakim you eejit. i'm still on the call

Richard Cyganiak: zakim you eejit. i'm still on the call

15:33:05 <olyerickson> RE "roles," see http://www.epimorphics.com/public/vocabulary/org.html#roles

John Erickson: RE "roles," see http://www.epimorphics.com/public/vocabulary/org.html#roles

15:33:35 <mhausenblas> George: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2

George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2

15:33:54 <olyerickson> DCAT ED: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html

John Erickson: DCAT ED: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html

15:34:11 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:34:18 <cygri> ACTION-38?

Richard Cyganiak: ACTION-38?

15:34:18 <trackbot> ACTION-38 -- Phil Archer to convert editors' draft of DCAT to make use of respec -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-38 -- Phil Archer to convert editors' draft of DCAT to make use of respec -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

15:34:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/38

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/38

15:34:21 <cygri> ACTION-39?

Richard Cyganiak: ACTION-39?

15:34:22 <trackbot> ACTION-39 -- Richard Cyganiak to update http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat to point to the new dcat ED -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-39 -- Richard Cyganiak to update http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat to point to the new dcat ED -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

15:34:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/39

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/39

15:34:25 <cygri> ACTION-40?

Richard Cyganiak: ACTION-40?

15:34:25 <trackbot> ACTION-40 -- Phil Archer to reflect on SEMIC advice on vocab selection etc. to see if there is more to contribute to the BP doc -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-40 -- Phil Archer to reflect on SEMIC advice on vocab selection etc. to see if there is more to contribute to the BP doc -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

15:34:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/40

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/40

15:34:33 <olyerickson> Issue 10 maybe?

John Erickson: ISSUE-10 maybe?

15:34:58 <olyerickson> zakim unmute me.

John Erickson: zakim unmute me.

15:35:01 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

15:35:09 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

15:35:12 <mhausenblas> ack olyerickson

ack olyerickson

15:36:44 <gatemezi> +1 to closing an issue with a resolution

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to closing an issue with a resolution

15:36:54 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:36:57 <mhausenblas> ack cygri

ack cygri

15:37:33 <mhausenblas> Michael: we should close issues only with the recorded resolution

Michael Hausenblas: we should close issues only with the recorded resolution

15:37:52 <cgueret> +1 to cygri

Christophe Gueret: +1 to cygri

15:37:58 <boris> +1 to richard

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1 to richard

15:37:59 <gatemezi> +1 to have a special meeting on DCAT for those issues...

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to have a special meeting on DCAT for those issues...

15:38:09 <mhausenblas> cygri: we should prepare issues along with proposal

Richard Cyganiak: we should prepare issues along with proposal

15:38:10 <DanG> +1 to richard

Dan Gillman: +1 to richard

15:38:38 <olyerickson> No objection

John Erickson: No objection

15:38:44 <mhausenblas> George: shall we start discussing issues?

George Thomas: shall we start discussing issues?

15:39:41 <cygri> +1 to olyerickson, this would be great!

Richard Cyganiak: +1 to olyerickson, this would be great!

15:39:52 <mhausenblas> George: the DCAT team should come up with proposals for the issues

John Sheridan: the DCAT team should come up with proposals for the issues

15:39:54 <George> +1 to olyerickson

George Thomas: +1 to olyerickson

15:40:26 <mhausenblas> s/George: the D/John: the D
15:40:35 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:41:07 <mhausenblas> Topic: Multilingualism of vocabs

4. Multilingualism of vocabs

15:41:10 <olyerickson> ACTION: DCAT team to propose resolutions to issue-2, issue-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda

ACTION: DCAT team to propose resolutions to ISSUE-2, ISSUE-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda

15:41:10 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - DCAT

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - DCAT

15:41:39 <olyerickson> ACTION: olyerickson to corral DCAT team to propose resolutions to issue-2, issue-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda

ACTION: olyerickson to corral DCAT team to propose resolutions to ISSUE-2, ISSUE-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda

15:41:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Corral DCAT team to propose resolutions to issue-2, issue-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda [on John Erickson - due 2012-02-09].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-47 - Corral DCAT team to propose resolutions to ISSUE-2, ISSUE-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda [on John Erickson - due 2012-02-09].

15:41:41 <dvilasuero> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/images/4/4a/MultilingualismGLD%28v4%29.pdf

Daniel Vila: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/images/4/4a/MultilingualismGLD%28v4%29.pdf

15:42:03 <olyerickson> zakim mute me.

John Erickson: zakim mute me.

15:42:25 <mhausenblas> Elena: From UPM, working on EC project http://www.monnet-project.eu/

Elena Montiel Ponsoda: From UPM, working on EC project http://www.monnet-project.eu/

15:42:44 <olyerickson> zakim mute me.

John Erickson: zakim mute me.

15:42:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:42:59 <olyerickson> ZAKIM mute me.

John Erickson: ZAKIM mute me.

15:43:05 <PhilA2> zakim, IPcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, IPcaller is me

15:43:05 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it

15:43:08 <mhausenblas> Zakim, mute olyerickson

Zakim, mute olyerickson

15:43:08 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted

15:44:07 <mhausenblas> (Elena walks us through the slides and highlights certain issues)

(Elena walks us through the slides and highlights certain issues)

15:44:30 <Zakim> -cygri.a

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15:44:46 <cygri> zakim why u hate me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim why u hate me

15:45:16 <Zakim> +??P64

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P64

15:45:18 <cygri> zakim, mute me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mute me

15:45:18 <Zakim> sorry, cygri, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cygri, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

15:45:26 <cygri> zakim, ??P64 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P64 is me

15:45:26 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

15:45:29 <cygri> zakim, mute me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mute me

15:45:29 <Zakim> cygri should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri should now be muted

15:46:16 <mhausenblas> Elena: it is not possible to link the labels, for example, this is the translation of the other

Elena Montiel Ponsoda: it is not possible to link the labels, for example, this is the translation of the other

15:46:49 <mhausenblas> Elena: better than ad-hoc solution is LEMON, developed in Monnet

Elena Montiel Ponsoda: better than ad-hoc solution is LEMON, developed in Monnet

15:48:02 <olyerickson> Slide?

John Erickson: Slide?

15:48:16 <olyerickson> ok slide 14

John Erickson: ok slide 14

15:48:21 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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15:48:27 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public

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15:49:55 <sandro> hmmmm.   does this mean we stop using RDF language tags...?    is language just another sense?

Sandro Hawke: hmmmm. does this mean we stop using RDF language tags...? is language just another sense?

15:50:02 <sandro> (or context)

Sandro Hawke: (or context)

15:54:28 <gatemezi> @thanks mhausenblas

Ghislain Atemezing: @thanks mhausenblas

15:54:51 <gatemezi> Is there any link of the lexical model you are talking about?

Ghislain Atemezing: Is there any link of the lexical model you are talking about?

15:55:03 <gatemezi> Could we advice govn't to *always* import in their vocab the lexical model for the translation of their vocab?

Ghislain Atemezing: Could we advice govn't to *always* import in their vocab the lexical model for the translation of their vocab?

15:55:11 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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15:55:40 <sandro> on slide 22, I wonder if it's really "medio de page"@es  or if language tags aren/t used (since they are basically redundant with lemon)

Sandro Hawke: on slide 22, I wonder if it's really "medio de page"@es or if language tags aren/t used (since they are basically redundant with lemon)

15:56:21 <cygri> sandro, it's still an utterance in a particular natural language, so @es is still appropriate

Richard Cyganiak: sandro, it's still an utterance in a particular natural language, so @es is still appropriate

15:56:52 <olyerickson> re: "isCulturalEquivalentTranslationOf" ...wow, what a concept!

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15:56:57 <sandro> I agree, cygri -- just wondering if the lemon folks agree.

Sandro Hawke: I agree, cygri -- just wondering if the lemon folks agree.

15:57:03 <sandro> sure, mhausenblas

Sandro Hawke: sure, mhausenblas

15:57:04 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:57:07 <cygri> ok sandro

Richard Cyganiak: ok sandro

15:57:13 <olyerickson> +1 to fascinating!

John Erickson: +1 to fascinating!

15:57:16 <gatemezi> Thanks Elena!!

Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks Elena!!

15:57:25 <dvilasuero> great talk elena

Daniel Vila: great talk elena

15:57:34 <PhilA2> Very interesting, Elena

Phil Archer: Very interesting, Elena

15:57:46 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:57:47 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

15:57:48 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

15:57:49 <mhausenblas> George: interesting work, there is a liaising opportunity

George Thomas: interesting work, there is a liaising opportunity

15:57:50 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:57:59 <mhausenblas> ack olyerickson

ack olyerickson

15:58:31 <mhausenblas> olyerickson: thanks Elena, we're been thinking about this in RPI as well in the context of international datasets

John Erickson: thanks Elena, we've been thinking about this in RPI as well in the context of international datasets

15:58:42 <Biplav> Thanks Elena!

Biplav Srivastava: Thanks Elena!

15:58:43 <mhausenblas> s/we're/we've
15:59:28 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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15:59:36 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

16:00:45 <DanG> q+

Dan Gillman: q+

16:00:54 <mhausenblas> olyerickson: the extensibility is an important aspect

John Erickson: the extensibility is an important aspect

16:01:02 <cygri> q-

Richard Cyganiak: q-

16:01:06 <mhausenblas> ack cygri

ack cygri

16:01:07 <Zakim> -cygri

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16:01:19 <mhausenblas> ack DanG

ack DanG

16:01:53 <mhausenblas> DanG: seems to me that you're using the concept as the pivot

Dan Gillman: seems to me that you're using the concept as the pivot

16:01:58 <mhausenblas> ack dang

ack dang

16:02:07 <mhausenblas> ack DanG

ack DanG

16:02:09 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

16:02:20 <mhausenblas> DanG: right approach, IMO

Dan Gillman: right approach, IMO

16:02:38 <cygri> if there's time, can someone ask if the ontolex community has an opinion on translating URIs (as opposed to labels/literals)?

Richard Cyganiak: if there's time, can someone ask if the ontolex community has an opinion on translating URIs (as opposed to labels/literals)?

16:02:39 <mhausenblas> George: thanks again, Elena

George Thomas: thanks again, Elena

16:02:46 <olyerickson> +1 to babies ;)

John Erickson: +1 to babies ;)

16:02:49 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:03:09 <PhilA2> Apologises for being absent for so much of the call - glad I caught Elena

Phil Archer: Apologises for being absent for so much of the call - glad I caught Elena

16:03:23 <PhilA2> go Dan1!

Phil Archer: go Dan1!

16:03:34 <mhausenblas> dvilasuero: volunteer to scribe next week

Daniel Vila: volunteer to scribe next week

16:03:35 <dvilasuero> i'd like to volunteer for scribing nexxt week

Daniel Vila: i'd like to volunteer for scribing nexxt week

16:03:42 <olyerickson> PhilA see Elana's slides

John Erickson: PhilA see Elana's slides

16:03:47 <mhausenblas> (meeting adjourned)

(meeting adjourned)

16:03:47 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks george

Benedikt Kaempgen: thanks george

16:03:48 <gatemezi> Thanks all!

Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks all!

16:03:49 <DanG> bye

Dan Gillman: bye

16:03:52 <fadi> bye

Fadi Maali: bye

16:03:54 <rreck> thanks

Ronald Reck: thanks

16:03:54 <BenediktKaempgen> bye

Benedikt Kaempgen: bye

16:03:56 <PhilA2> Thanks olyerickson I did

Phil Archer: Thanks olyerickson I did

16:03:57 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:03:57 <olyerickson> bye

John Erickson: bye

16:03:58 <dvilasuero> bye!!!

Daniel Vila: bye!!!

16:04:00 <rreck> bubye

Ronald Reck: bubye

16:04:00 <DeirdreLee> bye

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