Government Linked Data Working Group

Minutes of 01 September 2011

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.09.01
Seen
Anne Washington, Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Christophe Gueret, Daniel Mekonnen, David Smith, Gerald Steeman, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, John Erickson, Martín Álvarez, Michael Pendleton, Michael Hausenblas, Richard Cyganiak, Ronald Reck, Sandro Hawke, Tina Gheen, Yigal Arens
Scribe
Richard Cyganiak
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
13:56:42 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/01-gld-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/01-gld-irc

13:57:54 <bhyland> zakim what conferences do you see?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim what conferences do you see?

13:58:23 <bhyland> zakim list

Bernadette Hyland: zakim list

13:59:55 <BartvanLeeuwen> hi all

Bart van Leeuwen: hi all

14:00:57 <olyerickson> zakim, who is speaking?

John Erickson: zakim, who is speaking?

14:00:57 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, olyerickson, I don't know what conference this is

14:01:42 <BartvanLeeuwen> nope, no SIP connection to IRC

Bart van Leeuwen: nope, no SIP connection to IRC

14:01:46 <mhausenblas> Zakim, this will be GLD

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, this will be GLD

14:01:53 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

14:02:05 <bhyland> Thanks Michael

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks Michael

14:02:19 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas

14:02:24 <BartvanLeeuwen> ah there it is

Bart van Leeuwen: ah there it is

14:02:25 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is with me

14:02:29 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

14:02:38 <olyerickson> Zakim, who is speaking?

John Erickson: Zakim, who is speaking?

14:02:48 <Zakim> -??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P27

14:02:53 <Zakim> olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P24 (11%), mhausenblas (70%)

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P24 (11%), mhausenblas (70%)

14:03:12 <Zakim> +??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27

14:03:21 <Zakim> +??P58

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P58

14:03:28 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P27 is BartvanLeeuwen

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P27 is BartvanLeeuwen

14:03:28 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

14:03:32 <Zakim> + +1.218.296.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.218.296.aadd

14:03:36 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??p58 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p58 is me

14:03:36 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +martinAlvarez; got it

14:03:52 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +hadleybeeman

14:04:01 <rreck> zakim,  +1.218.296.aadd is me

Ronald Reck: zakim, +1.218.296.aadd is me

14:04:01 <Zakim> +rreck; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it

14:04:15 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

14:04:27 <gatemezi> Hi everyone...

Ghislain Atemezing: Hi everyone...

14:04:33 <Yigal> zakim, ??P24 is me

Yigal Arens: zakim, ??P24 is me

14:04:33 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it

14:04:33 <rreck> sandro: did you get the log i sent of last week's meeting?

Sandro Hawke: did you get the log i sent of last week's meeting? [ Scribe Assist by Ronald Reck ]

14:05:02 <bhyland> zakim, who is here?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is here?

14:05:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.566.aaaa, davidwood, Yigal, +49.721.aabb, ??P28, +1.703.292.aacc, mhausenblas, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, rreck, hadleybeeman, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.202.566.aaaa, davidwood, Yigal, +49.721.aabb, ??P28, +1.703.292.aacc, mhausenblas, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, rreck, hadleybeeman, Sandro

14:05:05 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

14:05:17 <TinaGheen> Zakim, aacc is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, aacc is me

14:05:17 <Zakim> +TinaGheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TinaGheen; got it

14:05:38 <bhyland> zakim davidwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim davidwood is me

14:05:41 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, aabb is bkaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aabb is bkaempgen

14:05:41 <Zakim> +bkaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bkaempgen; got it

14:05:56 <boris> Zakim, mhausenblas is with me

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: Zakim, mhausenblas is with me

14:05:56 <Zakim> sorry, boris, I do not recognize a party named 'boris'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, boris, I do not recognize a party named 'boris'

14:06:15 <mhausenblas> Zakim, boris is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, boris is with me

14:06:15 <Zakim> +boris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it

14:06:20 <boris> thanks Michael

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: thanks Michael

14:06:31 <cgueret_home> hi everyone

Christophe Gueret: hi everyone

14:06:35 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is MikePendleton

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, aaaa is MikePendleton

14:06:35 <Zakim> +MikePendleton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MikePendleton; got it

14:06:38 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, +1.202.566.aaaa is MIkePendleton

Hadley Beeman: zakim, +1.202.566.aaaa is MIkePendleton

14:06:38 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named '+1.202.566.aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named '+1.202.566.aaaa'

14:06:46 <bhyland> zakim, who is here?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is here?

14:06:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see MikePendleton, davidwood, Yigal, bkaempgen, ??P28, TinaGheen, mhausenblas, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, rreck, hadleybeeman, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MikePendleton, davidwood, Yigal, bkaempgen, ??P28, TinaGheen, mhausenblas, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, rreck, hadleybeeman, Sandro

14:06:50 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri, boris

14:06:57 <olyerickson> Zakim, ??P28 is olyerickson

John Erickson: Zakim, ??P28 is olyerickson

14:06:57 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

14:07:07 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, aabb is BenediktKaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aabb is BenediktKaempgen

14:07:07 <Zakim> sorry, BenediktKaempgen, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, BenediktKaempgen, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'

14:07:11 <Zakim> +Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory

14:07:38 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, bkaempgen is BenediktKaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, bkaempgen is BenediktKaempgen

14:07:38 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it

14:07:55 <cygri> scribe: cygri

(Scribe set to Richard Cyganiak)

14:08:28 <Zakim> +??P68

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P68

14:08:57 <cgueret_home> I just joined the call

Christophe Gueret: I just joined the call

14:09:05 <cygri> zakim, who is noisy?

zakim, who is noisy?

14:09:16 <Zakim> cygri, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

14:09:18 <cgueret_home> :)

Christophe Gueret: :)

14:09:29 <cgueret_home> Christophe Gueret

Christophe Gueret: Christophe Gueret

14:09:35 <mhausenblas> Zakim, mite cgueret_home

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, mite cgueret_home

14:09:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'mite cgueret_home', mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'mite cgueret_home', mhausenblas

14:09:39 <mhausenblas> Zakim, mute cgueret_home

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, mute cgueret_home

14:09:39 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not know which phone connection belongs to cgueret_home

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, mhausenblas, I do not know which phone connection belongs to cgueret_home

14:09:52 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

14:09:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see MikePendleton, davidwood, Yigal, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, TinaGheen, mhausenblas, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, rreck, hadleybeeman, Sandro, Cory, ??P68

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MikePendleton, davidwood, Yigal, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, TinaGheen, mhausenblas, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, rreck, hadleybeeman, Sandro, Cory, ??P68

14:09:52 <cygri> zakim, ??P68 is cgueret_home

zakim, ??P68 is cgueret_home

14:09:55 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri, boris

14:09:56 <Zakim> +cgueret_home; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret_home; got it

14:10:06 <cygri> zakim, mute cgueret_home

zakim, mute cgueret_home

14:10:06 <Zakim> cgueret_home should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret_home should now be muted

14:10:21 <cygri> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.09.01
14:10:31 <cygri> zakim, unmute cgueret_home

zakim, unmute cgueret_home

14:10:31 <Zakim> cgueret_home should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret_home should no longer be muted

14:10:45 <cgueret_home> q+

Christophe Gueret: q+

14:10:54 <Zakim> + +1.202.691.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.691.aaee

14:10:55 <cygri> bhyland: we have some new members and official invited experts

Bernadette Hyland: we have some new members and official invited experts

14:11:07 <cygri> ... please introduce yourself

... please introduce yourself

14:11:24 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

14:11:26 <olyerickson> q?

John Erickson: q?

14:11:30 <rreck> q?

Ronald Reck: q?

14:11:30 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:11:30 <cgueret_home> @bhyland it's ok I have access to the wiki etc

Christophe Gueret: @bhyland it's ok I have access to the wiki etc

14:11:38 <cygri> ... and make sure you're on the mailing list and can edit the wiki

... and make sure you're on the mailing list and can edit the wiki

14:11:42 <BartvanLeeuwen> bhyland, all works for me since this week

Bart van Leeuwen: bhyland, all works for me since this week

14:12:07 <mhausenblas> ack cgueret_home

Michael Hausenblas: ack cgueret_home

14:12:10 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

14:12:11 <cygri> cgueret_home: Christophe Gueret at VUA

Christophe Gueret: Christophe Gueret at VUA

14:12:16 <cgueret_home> LATC

Christophe Gueret: LATC

14:12:17 <cygri> ... work in the LATC project

... work in the LATC project

14:12:20 <cgueret_home> latc-project.eu

Christophe Gueret: latc-project.eu

14:12:21 <Zakim> + +1.703.913.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.913.aaff

14:12:27 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:13:28 <cygri> daniel: DOD ... interested in best practices

Daniel Mekonnen: DOD ... interested in best practices

14:13:39 <Zakim> +??P39

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P39

14:13:55 <gatemezi> Welcome Christophe!!

Ghislain Atemezing: Welcome Christophe!!

14:14:21 <cgueret_home> thanks :)

Christophe Gueret: thanks :)

14:14:27 <cygri> bhyland: we have a balance of research folks and government folks in the group

Bernadette Hyland: we have a balance of research folks and government folks in the group

14:14:54 <cygri> ... if you have use cases etc, you're encouraged to present them

... if you have use cases etc, you're encouraged to present them

14:15:24 <cygri> ... this is a very pragmatic working group ... we will develop some specifications but also best practices

... this is a very pragmatic working group ... we will develop some specifications but also best practices

14:16:05 <cygri> ... feel free to form breakout groups, write emails and cc the list, develop discussion on the wiki

... feel free to form breakout groups, write emails and cc the list, develop discussion on the wiki

14:16:26 <cygri> ... now that we're off the ground and have WG mechanics in place

... now that we're off the ground and have WG mechanics in place

14:16:52 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:17:24 <cygri> ... there's a poll for next F2F

... there's a poll for next F2F

14:17:47 <olyerickson> I need to verify travel ;)

John Erickson: I need to verify travel ;)

14:17:58 <cygri> http://www.doodle.com/3qhtb2n5umr5s434

http://www.doodle.com/3qhtb2n5umr5s434

14:18:06 <gatemezi> what about the minutes of our previous meeting?

Ghislain Atemezing: what about the minutes of our previous meeting?

14:18:11 <cygri> ... please fill out if you haven't yet

... please fill out if you haven't yet

14:18:24 <cgueret_home> I sent a log to Sandro

Christophe Gueret: I sent a log to Sandro

14:18:53 <cygri> ... minutes from last week's minutes didn't get captured, we need to reconstruct them from christophe's irc log

... minutes from last week's minutes didn't get captured, we need to reconstruct them from christophe's irc log

14:18:58 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q

14:19:08 <cygri> topic: Community Directory

1. Community Directory

14:19:44 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas

14:20:05 <cygri> uhm, bhyland, we dropped for some reason

uhm, bhyland, we dropped for some reason

14:20:15 <bhyland> Will do.

Bernadette Hyland: Will do.

14:20:26 <gatemezi> ComDir.. @bhyland.. I had some questions that I send them to you

Ghislain Atemezing: ComDir.. @bhyland.. I had some questions that I send them to you

14:20:39 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas

14:20:49 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is with me

14:20:49 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

14:20:59 <mhausenblas> Zakim, boris is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, boris is with me

14:20:59 <Zakim> +boris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it

14:21:07 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aagg

14:21:51 <gatemezi> ComDir we need to see what next after having access to 3roudstones platform..

Ghislain Atemezing: ComDir we need to see what next after having access to 3roudstones platform..

14:22:23 <bhyland> BartvanLeeuwen: Discussed practitioners of LD in Netherlands.  Some is documented (in Dutch) re: use of standard vocabs and Bart is looking for place to integrate this info.  Looking for entry point within EU.

Bart van Leeuwen: Discussed practitioners of LD in Netherlands. Some is documented (in Dutch) re: use of standard vocabs and Bart is looking for place to integrate this info. Looking for entry point within EU. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:22:27 <BartvanLeeuwen> http://standaarden.overheid.nl/owms/4.0/doc/

Bart van Leeuwen: http://standaarden.overheid.nl/owms/4.0/doc/

14:22:33 <mhausenblas> q+

Michael Hausenblas: q+

14:22:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> q-

Bart van Leeuwen: q-

14:23:18 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

14:23:22 <bhyland> q- mhausenblas

Bernadette Hyland: q- mhausenblas

14:23:28 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:23:41 <cygri> bhyland: how do you deal with specifications/documents etc that are not in english, in w3c?

Bernadette Hyland: how do you deal with specifications/documents etc that are not in english, in w3c?

14:24:48 <cygri> mhausenblas: when you bring together people from different backgrounds, the rest follows

Michael Hausenblas: when you bring together people from different backgrounds, the rest follows

14:25:01 <cygri> ... of course people want documents in their own language

... of course people want documents in their own language

14:25:11 <bhyland> mhausenblas: RE: Discussed issues of publishing info in other languages than English. People want info in their own language.  SMEs and Web Developers need this. We don't have a really good solution, but safe bet to say that if people get together solutions seem to emerge.

Michael Hausenblas: RE: Discussed issues of publishing info in other languages than English. People want info in their own language. SMEs and Web Developers need this. We don't have a really good solution, but safe bet to say that if people get together solutions seem to emerge. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:25:46 <cygri> bhyland: bart, can your colleague come to a F2F meeting?

Bernadette Hyland: bart, can your colleague come to a F2F meeting?

14:25:51 <mhausenblas> scribenick: cygri
14:25:59 <bhyland> ack cygri

Bernadette Hyland: ack cygri

14:26:09 <cygri> BartvanLeeuwen: not sure. he's very active in dublin core and eGovernment

Bart van Leeuwen: not sure. he's very active in dublin core and eGovernment

14:26:41 <gatemezi> But I suppose that a small summary of documents in other languages that English could be necessary..

Ghislain Atemezing: But I suppose that a small summary of documents in other languages that English could be necessary..

14:26:57 <cygri> ... there are various overlapping activities around definition of vocabularies

... there are various overlapping activities around definition of vocabularies

14:27:07 <cygri> ... how to avoid duplicate work?

... how to avoid duplicate work?

14:27:41 <cygri> bhyland: question of publishing in multiple languages is critical

Bernadette Hyland: question of publishing in multiple languages is critical

14:27:52 <cygri> BartvanLeeuwen: will take it to the mailing list

Bart van Leeuwen: will take it to the mailing list

14:28:04 <olyerickson> Note that I don't think internationalization is completely disconnected from the work of this group

John Erickson: Note that I don't think internationalization is completely disconnected from the work of this group

14:28:12 <cygri> bhyland: i'll check if callimachus can handle content in multiple languages

Bernadette Hyland: i'll check if callimachus can handle content in multiple languages

14:28:25 <olyerickson> +1 to querying directory info (that's my point)

John Erickson: +1 to querying directory info (that's my point)

14:28:30 <HadleyBeeman> Can we learn anything from the semantic web interest group? They must've had to deal with internationalisation and multiple languages.

Hadley Beeman: Can we learn anything from the semantic web interest group? They must've had to deal with internationalisation and multiple languages.

14:28:58 <cygri> bhyland: a few questions have been raised regarding the community directory

Bernadette Hyland: a few questions have been raised regarding the community directory

14:29:07 <Yigal> q+

Yigal Arens: q+

14:29:25 <cygri> ... email me to get a login

... email me to get a login

14:29:33 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:29:37 <mhausenblas> ack Yigal

Michael Hausenblas: ack Yigal

14:29:41 <BenediktKaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+

14:30:06 <cygri> Yigal: i'm uncertain about the form it should take exactly. but i'll try to add some things

Yigal Arens: i'm uncertain about the form it should take exactly. but i'll try to add some things

14:30:18 <cygri> bhyland: what portion do you want to help with?

Bernadette Hyland: what portion do you want to help with?

14:30:54 <cygri> Yigal: research funding. describe in detail what attributes, categories of sources, tpyes of funding are available

Yigal Arens: research funding. describe in detail what attributes, categories of sources, tpyes of funding are available

14:31:07 <cygri> bhyland: can you describe why this is important?

Bernadette Hyland: can you describe why this is important?

14:31:54 <cygri> Yigal: academics get funding from government agencies. it's important for people to understand what's involved in getting such funding

Yigal Arens: academics get funding from government agencies. it's important for people to understand what's involved in getting such funding

14:32:22 <cygri> bhyland: (anecdote on AI winter and semantic web)

Bernadette Hyland: (anecdote on AI winter and semantic web)

14:33:03 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aahh

14:33:26 <olyerickson> RDF isn't a standard, it's a recommendation ;)

John Erickson: RDF isn't a standard, it's a recommendation ;)

14:34:04 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:34:21 <cygri> topic: Data Cube

2. Data Cube

14:34:38 <cygri> Benedikt: (reports on data cube breakout last week)

Benedikt Kaempgen: (reports on data cube breakout last week)

14:35:02 <cygri> ... goal: recommend how to publish governmental statistical data

... goal: recommend how to publish governmental statistical data

14:35:07 <BenediktKaempgen> http://wiki.planet-data.eu/web/Datasets

Benedikt Kaempgen: http://wiki.planet-data.eu/web/Datasets

14:35:12 <cygri> ... sdmx might be too expressive

... sdmx might be too expressive

14:35:24 <cygri> ... what exactly is needed, is still not entirely clear

... what exactly is needed, is still not entirely clear

14:35:41 <cygri> ... john sheridan reported on how they specialized data cube for COINS

... john sheridan reported on how they specialized data cube for COINS

14:36:09 <cygri> ... the specialization makes it easier to talk about financial data

... the specialization makes it easier to talk about financial data

14:36:18 <cygri> ... as opposed to statistical concepts (dimensions etc)

... as opposed to statistical concepts (dimensions etc)

14:36:27 <annew> RFC?

Anne Washington: RFC?

14:36:35 <cygri> ... unfortunately, data is not available with dereferenceable URIs, only zip files

... unfortunately, data is not available with dereferenceable URIs, only zip files

14:36:54 <cygri> ... another topic: how should statistical data be consumed?

... another topic: how should statistical data be consumed?

14:36:55 <bhyland> @annew RFC = request for comment

Bernadette Hyland: @annew RFC = request for comment

14:36:55 <olyerickson> JohnS noted that DataCube more suited to "aggregate" data

John Erickson: JohnS noted that DataCube more suited to "aggregate" data

14:37:24 <cygri> ... another topic: what's missing from the vocabulary

... another topic: what's missing from the vocabulary

14:37:42 <cygri> ... perhaps: can descriptions of different datasets be combined?

... perhaps: can descriptions of different datasets be combined?

14:37:43 <cygri> q+

q+

14:38:01 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:38:13 <bhyland> q- BenediktKaempgen

Bernadette Hyland: q- BenediktKaempgen

14:38:21 <bhyland> q- cygri

Bernadette Hyland: q- cygri

14:40:01 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:40:02 <cygri> cygri: (you can announce that datasets can be combined by re-using code lists, concepts etc)

Richard Cyganiak: (you can announce that datasets can be combined by re-using code lists, concepts etc)

14:40:22 <cygri> benedikt: yes, but publishers tend not to do that. we have to find out why

Benedikt Kaempgen: yes, but publishers tend not to do that. we have to find out why

14:41:15 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:41:18 <olyerickson> @bhyland are you looking for e.g. JohnS's use cases?

John Erickson: @bhyland are you looking for e.g. JohnS's use cases?

14:41:25 <cygri> topic: Procurement

3. Procurement

14:41:43 <annew> thanks mhausenblas. RFC is a way to gather multiple perspectives /comments .

Anne Washington: thanks mhausenblas. RFC is a way to gather multiple perspectives /comments .

14:41:55 <cygri> bhyland: is anyone here who can contribute to the discussion here?

Bernadette Hyland: is anyone here who can contribute to the discussion here?

14:42:47 <annew> and for clarity IETF is Internet Engineering Task Force

Anne Washington: and for clarity IETF is Internet Engineering Task Force

14:43:15 <cygri> topic: Provenance

4. Provenance

14:42:49 <cygri> bhyland: last week we had ??? from the provenance WG

Bernadette Hyland: last week we had ??? from the provenance WG

14:43:33 <gatemezi> yes

Ghislain Atemezing: yes

14:43:40 <gatemezi> no..

Ghislain Atemezing: no..

14:43:45 <gatemezi> sorry..

Ghislain Atemezing: sorry..

14:44:29 <cygri> olyerickson: i can help making the right connections regarding provenance

John Erickson: i can help making the right connections regarding provenance

14:44:57 <bhyland> Stephen Cresswell (UK TSO)

Bernadette Hyland: Stephen Cresswell (UK TSO)

14:45:22 <cygri> ACTION: olyerickson to connect with steven chresswell regarding provenance

ACTION: olyerickson to connect with steven chresswell regarding provenance

14:45:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-5 - Connect with steven chresswell regarding provenance [on John Erickson - due 2011-09-08].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-5 - Connect with steven chresswell regarding provenance [on John Erickson - due 2011-09-08].

14:45:43 <cygri> topic: DNS Subdomain discussion

5. DNS Subdomain discussion

14:46:10 <Michael Pendleton> you definitely have permission

Michael Pendleton: you definitely have permission

14:46:33 <cygri> bhyland: mike pendleton is with us. preparing to release several datasets

Bernadette Hyland: mike pendleton is with us. preparing to release several datasets

14:46:33 <gatemezi> Zakim, gatemezi maybe Ghislain Atemezing

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, gatemezi maybe Ghislain Atemezing

14:46:33 <Zakim> I don't understand 'gatemezi maybe Ghislain Atemezing', gatemezi

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'gatemezi maybe Ghislain Atemezing', gatemezi

14:46:56 <cygri> ... looking for direction on identifiers

... looking for direction on identifiers

14:48:08 <cygri> ... we discussed having opendata.<orgname>.gov

... we discussed having opendata.<orgname>.gov

14:48:19 <annew> +q

Anne Washington: +q

14:48:29 <cygri> ... experiences, anyone?

... experiences, anyone?

14:48:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q

14:48:37 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:48:52 <cygri> annew: what is the goal of a subdomain here?

Anne Washington: what is the goal of a subdomain here?

14:49:28 <cygri> bhyland: we want to make rdf available for the epa. what shall we tell their sysadmin?

Bernadette Hyland: we want to make rdf available for the epa. what shall we tell their sysadmin?

14:49:28 <cygri> q+

q+

14:49:34 <cygri> ack annew

ack annew

14:49:48 <David Smith> i.e. facilities.epa.gov/...  and substances.epa.gov/.. and so on

David Smith: i.e. facilities.epa.gov/... and substances.epa.gov/.. and so on

14:50:21 <cygri> annew: are you trying to encourage a convention so that everyone knows where to find the open data?

Anne Washington: are you trying to encourage a convention so that everyone knows where to find the open data?

14:50:25 <David Smith> versus opendata.epa.gov/facilities and opendata.epa.gov/substances (simplified examples)

David Smith: versus opendata.epa.gov/facilities and opendata.epa.gov/substances (simplified examples)

14:50:30 <cygri> bhyland: it would be nice if there was consistency

Bernadette Hyland: it would be nice if there was consistency

14:50:39 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

14:50:46 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:50:52 <olyerickson> -1 to e.g. "rdf.fooagency.gov"

John Erickson: -1 to e.g. "rdf.fooagency.gov"

14:51:15 <cygri> BartvanLeeuwen: why do you say “open” and not just “data”?

Bart van Leeuwen: why do you say “open” and not just “data”?

14:51:18 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

14:51:20 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

14:51:24 <BartvanLeeuwen> q-

Bart van Leeuwen: q-

14:51:26 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

14:51:31 <mhausenblas> ack cygri

Michael Hausenblas: ack cygri

14:51:32 <bhyland> q- BartvanLeeuwen

Bernadette Hyland: q- BartvanLeeuwen

14:51:46 <cgueret_home> s/replace/replaced

Christophe Gueret: s/replace/replaced (warning: replacement failed)

14:51:48 <olyerickson> +1 to "data.fooagency.gov"

John Erickson: +1 to "data.fooagency.gov"

14:51:59 <annew> +1 data.agency.gov

Anne Washington: +1 data.agency.gov

14:52:27 <cgueret_home> +1 data.<organisation>.<country>

Christophe Gueret: +1 data.<organisation>.<country>

14:52:32 <olyerickson> it's analogous to efforts like "data.rpi.edu" "data.soton.edu" (or whatever)

John Erickson: it's analogous to efforts like "data.rpi.edu" "data.soton.edu" (or whatever)

14:52:42 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:52:45 <cygri> cygri: data.<org>.<tld> is a common pattern. mirrors www.<org>.<tld>

Richard Cyganiak: data.<org>.<tld> is a common pattern. mirrors www.<org>.<tld>

14:52:47 <bhyland> ack HadleyBeeman

Bernadette Hyland: ack HadleyBeeman

14:52:58 <olyerickson> Isn't GT using data.health.gov ?

John Erickson: Isn't GT using data.health.gov ?

14:53:02 <gatemezi> +1 for opendata.fooagency.gov

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 for opendata.fooagency.gov

14:53:27 <olyerickson> -1 to "opendata..."

John Erickson: -1 to "opendata..."

14:53:36 <Michael Pendleton> A big thanks from EPA for all this sage advice

Michael Pendleton: A big thanks from EPA for all this sage advice

14:53:41 <gatemezi> +1 to "opendata"..

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to "opendata"..

14:53:51 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

14:53:54 <cygri> topic: Announcements

6. Announcements

14:53:57 <mhausenblas> q+

Michael Hausenblas: q+

14:53:58 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:54:13 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

14:54:23 <annew> +1 olyerickson way tedious

Anne Washington: +1 olyerickson way tedious

14:54:33 <bhyland> +1 to data.fooagency.gov

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to data.fooagency.gov

14:54:33 <cygri> mhausenblas: we have journal special issue in IEEE Intelligent Systems

Michael Hausenblas: we have journal special issue in IEEE Intelligent Systems

14:54:35 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

14:54:36 <mhausenblas> http://www.computer.org/portal/web/computingnow/iscfp2

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.computer.org/portal/web/computingnow/iscfp2

14:54:48 <gatemezi> for me it is to make clear that we are dealing with data that are OPEN..

Ghislain Atemezing: for me it is to make clear that we are dealing with data that are OPEN..

14:54:49 <cygri> ... submissions due in three weeks

... submissions due in three weeks

14:55:34 <cygri> bhyland: is this all about new research, or also about best practices?

Bernadette Hyland: is this all about new research, or also about best practices?

14:56:33 <cygri> mhausenblas: looking for real-world experiences, but some relation to a research challenge should be present in the submission

Michael Hausenblas: looking for real-world experiences, but some relation to a research challenge should be present in the submission

14:56:39 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

14:56:49 <bhyland> @mhausenblas: I encourage you to research out to the Ontoprise guys who I heard speak yesterday on work they are doing in enterprise hospital care, HR, hydro-power project using sem tech.

Bernadette Hyland: @mhausenblas: I encourage you to research out to the Ontoprise guys who I heard speak yesterday on work they are doing in enterprise hospital care, HR, hydro-power project using sem tech.

14:57:08 <olyerickson> q-

John Erickson: q-

14:57:10 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:57:15 <rreck> write another edition

Ronald Reck: write another edition

14:57:28 <cygri> bhyland: ontoprise guys do very interesting stuff, i wish they had submitted a chapter to the LGD book

Bernadette Hyland: ontoprise guys do very interesting stuff, i wish they had submitted a chapter to the LGD book

14:57:36 <cygri> ... open gov camp in warsaw

... open gov camp in warsaw

14:57:39 <GeraldSteeman> q+

Gerald Steeman: q+

14:57:42 <cygri> ... we are invited to organize a track there

... we are invited to organize a track there

14:57:58 <cygri> q+

q+

14:58:12 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:58:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> London opengov data camp was really nice last year

Bart van Leeuwen: London opengov data camp was really nice last year

14:58:40 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

14:58:42 <mhausenblas> ack GeraldSteeman

Michael Hausenblas: ack GeraldSteeman

14:58:50 <bhyland> *Hadley - thanks, I'll definitely take you up on that!

Bernadette Hyland: *Hadley - thanks, I'll definitely take you up on that!

14:58:51 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

14:59:02 <cygri> GeraldSteeman: nov 3rd, NASA will host a meeting ...

Gerald Steeman: nov 3rd, NASA will host a meeting ...

14:59:09 <bhyland> ack GeraldSteeman

Bernadette Hyland: ack GeraldSteeman

14:59:16 <bhyland> ack cygri

Bernadette Hyland: ack cygri

14:59:19 <cygri> ... would bhyland or george be available to speak there?

... would bhyland or george be available to speak there?

14:59:27 <GeraldSteeman> q-

Gerald Steeman: q-

14:59:30 <cygri> ... 14 agencies will be there, good opportunity

... 14 agencies will be there, good opportunity

14:59:33 <cygri> q-

q-

14:59:40 <TinaGheen> +1 for George or Bernadette speaking to CENDI

Tina Gheen: +1 for George or Bernadette speaking to CENDI

15:00:13 <cygri> olyerickson: the eGov Interest Group is restarted, calls were paused but are on now again

John Erickson: the eGov Interest Group is restarted, calls were paused but are on now again

15:00:27 <HadleyBeeman> olyerickson I was there too

Hadley Beeman: olyerickson I was there too

15:00:28 <annew> +1 CENDI is an important group to expose to open linked data

Anne Washington: +1 CENDI is an important group to expose to open linked data

15:00:32 <sandro> (yep, this group is an spin-off of that group, the eGov IG)

Sandro Hawke: (yep, this group is an spin-off of that group, the eGov IG)

15:00:34 <bhyland> Coming up on Sept 15th, GLD WG meeting will have Bernard Vatant from Mondeca as guest speaking on VoaF.

Bernadette Hyland: Coming up on Sept 15th, GLD WG meeting will have Bernard Vatant from Mondeca as guest speaking on VoaF.

15:00:37 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

15:00:38 <cygri> ... i seem to be the olny one from this group on that call

... i seem to be the olny one from this group on that call

15:00:53 <annew> Anne is an invited expert on egov interest group but missed first call

Anne Washington: Anne is an invited expert on egov interest group but missed first call

15:01:15 <olyerickson> q-

John Erickson: q-

15:01:31 <sandro> In general they 9am on the third tuesday of the month.

Sandro Hawke: In general they 9am on the third tuesday of the month.

15:01:38 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:01:43 <sandro> (boston time)

Sandro Hawke: (boston time)

15:02:04 <mhausenblas> ack HadleyBeeman

Michael Hausenblas: ack HadleyBeeman

15:02:46 <annew> +1 Hadley's comments on staying connected

Anne Washington: +1 Hadley's comments on staying connected

15:02:52 <cygri> HadleyBeeman: there's lots of overlap in interest between both groups so we need strong connections

Hadley Beeman: there's lots of overlap in interest between both groups so we need strong connections

15:02:57 <bhyland> * @annew thanks for recommending we reach out to CENDI. *

Bernadette Hyland: * @annew thanks for recommending we reach out to CENDI. *

15:02:57 <olyerickson> Great meeting bern!

John Erickson: Great meeting bern!

15:03:05 <cygri> bhyland: adjourned

Bernadette Hyland: adjourned

15:03:06 <rreck> thanks

Ronald Reck: thanks

15:03:08 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks, bhyland!

Hadley Beeman: Thanks, bhyland!

15:03:11 <rreck> its an hour long?

Ronald Reck: its an hour long?

15:03:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx ! see you next week

Bart van Leeuwen: thx ! see you next week

15:03:12 <cgueret_home> thanks

Christophe Gueret: thanks

15:03:14 <annew> cheers!

Anne Washington: cheers!

15:03:15 <cgueret_home> bye

Christophe Gueret: bye

15:03:17 <martinAlvarez> bye

Martín Álvarez: bye

15:03:19 <sandro> thanks!

Sandro Hawke: thanks!

15:03:20 <cygri> RRSAgent, make  minutes public

RRSAgent, make minutes public

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RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', cygri. Try /msg RRSAgent help

15:03:21 <bhyland> thanks all.

Bernadette Hyland: thanks all.

15:03:33 <cygri> RRSAgent, make logs public

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