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LLD XG

08 Sep 2011

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Present
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Chair
Tom
Scribe
kcoyle

Contents


<emma> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2011/09/01-lld-minutes.html

<tbaker> scribe: kcoyle

<tbaker> scribenick: kcoyle

tom: exec summary - ok
... use either XG or Incubator Group
... edit now (Antoine editing) all to Incubator Group

<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=ExecutiveSummary&diff=6303&oldid=6301

status of this document is W3C boilerplate except last line: comments to mailing list

<emma> +1

will read: discussion of this document...

antoine is doing these edits in real time

<tbaker> ACTION: Tom to update language of recommendations in Abstract to match Recommendations section. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action01]

<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=ExecutiveSummary&diff=6304&oldid=6303

<tbaker> ACTION: All to edit document titles to use "Incubator Group" instead of "XG" in title. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action02]

<jodi> "library-world context" or "library context" in this case?

scope of this report: antoine - done

<jodi> in the executive report

<emma> I still dont like library world ;-)

jodi changing "library-world context" to "library context" in exec summary

Benefits section: not yet edited

<scribe> ACTION: peter will edit later today; just clean-up [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action03]

<tbaker> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Sep/0232.html

Current situation, emma and antoine. - Report DONE, if no more comments

<jodi> I made a suggestion for this sentence, which Emma had flagged: "Changes to authority displays require that all related records be retrieved in order to change their text strings -- a disruptive and expensive process that often prevents libraries from implementing changes in a timely manner."

<emma> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_issues_page_take2&diff=6298&oldid=6292

<emma> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_issues_page_take2&diff=6299&oldid=6247

<jodi> +1 initative

<emma> changed "incentive" into "initiative"

<pmurray> I might be back; my boss just skyped me.

restoring original sentence in library data not integrated with web

recommendations section: antoine - data curation needs ... curation

<antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Sep/0175.html

antoine asked a question on the list about this section; not yet resolved

group has no objection to antoine's change: he'll make it now

<edsu> Develop and disseminate best-practice design patterns tailored to library Linked Data

<edsu> Develop and disseminate best-practice design patterns tailored to library Linked Data

<edsu> http://patterns.dataincubator.org/book/

<jodi> +1

<tbaker> +1

edsu: suggests adding above link to davis/dobbs book

<edsu> Design and test user services based on Linked Data capabilities

edsu: would like change to first sentence

<antoine> Done my change: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6309&oldid=6293

<edsu> Increase library participation in Semantic Web standardization

edsu: section on participation in SemWeb standards
... we could mention W3C community group here

<tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2#Design_and_test_user_services_based_on_Linked_Data_capabilities

tom: unfortunately, we don't know if there will be a group

tbaker: no one has volunteered to lead community group

<jodi> +1 "this would be a good role for a community group in this area"

antoine: could mention community group in that last sentence

<antoine> by joining technical working groups, more open community group (@@link@@) or participating in public review processes.

<edsu> antoine: thanks for the suggested wording change

<tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2#Increase_library_participation_in_Semantic_Web_standardization

<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6310&oldid=6309

<antoine> http://www.w3.org/community/

tbaker making that edit, to add kcoyle's sentence to end, suggesting creation of a community group for LLD

<jodi> A W3C Community Group could play a good role in this area.

<tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6287&oldid=6269

<jodi> change made: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6312&oldid=6311

<antoine> does not include mechanisms for managing pre-coordinated subject headings,

<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6313&oldid=6312

<jodi> did we add the LD patterns book?

edsu: adding linked data patterns book

<tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2#Design_and_test_user_services_based_on_Linked_Data_capabilities

need to change "should" to something less presumptuous

<scribe> ACTION: on edsu and others to fix this sentence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action04]

Appendix A kcoyle did edits, Jodi will read through

<jodi> pmurray: ping

<pmurray> jodi: Still talking with my boss...

<jodi> pmurray: ok, no worries :)

<pmurray> Sorry…priorities, ya'know.

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=6199&oldid=6148

<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=6199&oldid=6006

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=6199&oldid=6150

Use Cases report: kcoyle has edited, Daniel has a few more changes that kcoyle will edit, then report DONE

Deliverable C: still being edited

tbaker: still some cleanup to do;

<tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ExecutiveSummary

tbaker: all separate deliverables need to follow w3c format for documents

<jodi> perhaps we should task someone with making an abstract for the Vocabulary and Dataset Deliverable?

many in group will be unavailable sep 17-26

<pmurray> alabama lia

<jodi> pmurray: are you going to the DC conference? We're wondering if 17-26 is good for the HTML editing period.

meet next Thursday, same slot; try to have all wiki edit finalized

<pmurray> No, I'm not going to the DC conference.

<jodi> pmurray: great :)

<pmurray> I can do HTML editing 17-26

<jodi> tbaker: could you please send email about getting permissions to edit on W3C website?

<jodi> pmurray: +1-617-761-6200, code 55394#

<pmurray> jodi++

<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/AcknowledgementsUseCaseDeliverable

<jodi> "@@TODO: list authors of individual use cases not yet ack'ed."

<scribe> ACTION: kcoyle will fix acknowledgements in use case report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action05]

tbaker: will send out note about access and suggest short names

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: All to edit document titles to use "Incubator Group" instead of "XG" in title. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: kcoyle will fix acknowledgements in use case report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: on edsu and others to fix this sentence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: peter will edit later today; just clean-up [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Tom to update language of recommendations in Abstract to match Recommendations section. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html#action01]
 
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