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14:00:55 <emma> zakim, this will be LLD
14:00:55 <Zakim> ok, emma; I see INC_LLDXG()10:00AM scheduled to start now
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14:04:28 <tbaker> zakim, who is on the call?
14:04:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see jodi, antoine, emma, pmurray, kcoyle, tbaker
14:04:34 <tbaker> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:04:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html tbaker
14:05:02 <emma> Chair: Tom
14:05:10 <emma> Meeting: LLD XG
14:05:38 <emma> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2011/09/01-lld-minutes.html
14:06:22 <tbaker> scribe: kcoyle
14:06:27 <tbaker> scribenick: kcoyle
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14:07:25 <kcoyle> tom: exec summary - ok
14:08:22 <kcoyle> tom: use either XG or Incubator Group
14:09:49 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:09:49 <jodi> zakim, please mute me
14:09:50 <Zakim> jodi should now be muted
14:10:09 <kcoyle> tom: edit now (Antoine editing) all to Incubator Group
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14:10:59 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=ExecutiveSummary&diff=6303&oldid=6301
14:11:06 <edsu> zakim, [LC] is edsu
14:11:06 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
14:11:43 <kcoyle> status of this document is W3C boilerplate except last line: comments to mailing list
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14:12:38 <emma> +1
14:12:39 <kcoyle> will read: discussion of this document... 
14:13:17 <kcoyle> antoine is doing these edits in real time
14:13:26 <tbaker> ACTION: Tom to update language of recommendations in Abstract to match Recommendations section.
14:13:43 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=ExecutiveSummary&diff=6304&oldid=6303
14:13:50 <tbaker> ACTION: All to edit document titles to use "Incubator Group" instead of "XG" in title.
14:14:49 <jodi> "library-world context" or "library context" in this case?
14:16:07 <kcoyle> scope of this report: antoine - done
14:16:28 <jodi> in the executive report
14:16:31 <jodi> zakim, unmute me please
14:16:31 <Zakim> jodi should no longer be muted
14:16:54 <emma> I still dont like library world ;-)
14:17:44 <kcoyle> jodi changing "library-world context" to "library context" in exec summary
14:18:14 <kcoyle> Benefits section: not yet edited
14:18:41 <kcoyle> ACTION: peter will edit later today; just clean-up
14:19:25 <tbaker> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Sep/0232.html
14:19:27 <kcoyle> Current situation, emma and antoine. - Report DONE, if no more comments
14:20:02 <jodi> I made a suggestion for this sentence, which Emma had flagged: "Changes to authority displays require that all related records be retrieved in order to change their text strings -- a disruptive and expensive process that often prevents libraries from implementing changes in a timely manner."
14:20:43 <emma> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_issues_page_take2&diff=6298&oldid=6292
14:21:26 <emma> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_issues_page_take2&diff=6299&oldid=6247
14:22:08 <jodi> +1 initative
14:23:01 <emma> changed "incentive" into "initiative"
14:32:13 <Zakim> -pmurray
14:32:25 <pmurray> I might be back; my boss just skyped me.
14:32:41 <kcoyle> restoring original sentence in library data not integrated with web
14:33:45 <kcoyle> recommendations section: antoine - data curation needs ... curation
14:34:10 <Zakim> -emma
14:34:52 <antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Sep/0175.html
14:36:47 <kcoyle> antoine asked a question on the list about this section; not yet resolved
14:38:30 <kcoyle> group has no objection to antoine's change: he'll make it now
14:39:31 <edsu> Develop and disseminate best-practice design patterns tailored to library Linked Data
14:39:36 <edsu> Develop and disseminate best-practice design patterns tailored to library Linked Data
14:39:53 <edsu> http://patterns.dataincubator.org/book/
14:39:57 <jodi> +1
14:40:12 <tbaker> +1
14:40:18 <kcoyle> edsu: suggests adding above link to davis/dobbs book
14:40:21 <edsu> Design and test user services based on Linked Data capabilities
14:40:55 <kcoyle> edsu: would like change to first sentence
14:40:57 <antoine> Done my change: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6309&oldid=6293
14:41:24 <edsu> Increase library participation in Semantic Web standardization
14:41:31 <kcoyle> edsu: section on participation in SemWeb standards
14:41:49 <kcoyle> edsu: we could mention W3C community group here
14:41:54 <tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2#Design_and_test_user_services_based_on_Linked_Data_capabilities
14:42:02 <kcoyle> tom: unfortunately, we don't know if there will be a grup
14:42:08 <kcoyle> s/grup/group
14:42:37 <kcoyle> tbaker: no one has volunteered to lead community group
14:43:09 <jodi> +1 "this would be a good role for a community group in this area"
14:43:59 <kcoyle> antoine: could mention community group in that last sentence
14:44:55 <antoine> by joining technical working groups, more open community group (@@link@@) or  participating in public review processes. 
14:44:59 <edsu> antoine: thanks for the suggested wording change 
14:45:37 <tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2#Increase_library_participation_in_Semantic_Web_standardization
14:45:51 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6310&oldid=6309
14:48:00 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/community/
14:49:12 <kcoyle> tbaker making that edit, to add kcoyle's sentence to end, suggesting creation of a community group for LLD
14:51:47 <jodi> A W3C Community Group could play a good role in this area.
14:52:17 <tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6287&oldid=6269
14:52:44 <jodi> change made: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6312&oldid=6311
14:53:05 <antoine> does not include mechanisms for managing pre-coordinated subject headings, 
14:54:06 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_recommendations_page_take2&diff=6313&oldid=6312
14:54:57 <jodi> did we add the LD patterns book?
14:55:44 <kcoyle> edsu: adding linked data patterns book
14:56:08 <tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2#Design_and_test_user_services_based_on_Linked_Data_capabilities
14:59:01 <kcoyle> need to change "should" to something less presumptuous
14:59:22 <kcoyle> ACTION: on edsu and others to fix this sentence
15:00:12 <kcoyle> Appendix A kcoyle did edits, Jodi will read through
15:00:12 <Zakim> -edsu
15:00:30 <jodi> pmurray: ping
15:00:51 <pmurray> jodi: Still talking with my boss...
15:00:59 <jodi> pmurray: ok, no worries :)
15:01:18 <pmurray> Sorry…priorities, ya'know.
15:01:22 <kcoyle> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=6199&oldid=6148
15:01:53 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=6199&oldid=6006
15:01:58 <kcoyle> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=6199&oldid=6150
15:05:44 <kcoyle> Use Cases report: kcoyle has edited, Daniel has a few more changes that kcoyle will edit, then report DONE
15:06:05 <kcoyle> Deliverable C: still being edited
15:06:59 <kcoyle> tbaker: still some cleanup to do; 
15:07:46 <tbaker> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ExecutiveSummary
15:08:01 <kcoyle> tbaker: all separate deliverables need to follow w3c format for documents
15:08:52 <jodi> perhaps we should task someone with making an abstract for the Vocabulary and Dataset Deliverable?
15:10:00 <kcoyle> many in group will be unavailable sep 17-26
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15:14:01 <pmurray> alabama lia
15:14:32 <jodi> pmurray: are you going to the DC conference? We're wondering if 17-26 is good for the HTML editing period.
15:14:56 <kcoyle> meet next Thursday, same slot; try to have all wiki edit finalized
15:14:58 <pmurray> No, I'm not going to the DC conference.
15:15:05 <jodi> pmurray: great :)
15:15:11 <pmurray> I can do HTML editing 17-26
15:15:31 <jodi> tbaker: could you please send email about getting permissions to edit on W3C website?
15:15:53 <pmurray> zakim, telecom info
15:15:53 <Zakim> I don't understand 'telecom info', pmurray
15:16:01 <pmurray> zakim, call info
15:16:01 <Zakim> I am sorry, pmurray; I do not know a number for info
15:16:32 <jodi> pmurray: +1-617-761-6200, code 55394# 
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15:17:01 <pmurray> jodi++
15:18:13 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/AcknowledgementsUseCaseDeliverable
15:18:39 <jodi> "@@TODO: list authors of individual use cases not yet ack'ed."
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15:19:25 <kcoyle> ACTION: kcoyle will fix acknowledgements in use case report
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15:20:11 <kcoyle> tbaker: will send out note about access and suggest short names
15:20:21 <Zakim> -antoine
15:20:22 <Zakim> -tbaker
15:20:27 <Zakim> -jodi
15:20:28 <Zakim> -pmurray
15:20:31 <tbaker> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:20:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-lld-minutes.html tbaker
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15:20:37 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.763.463.aaaa, antoine, jodi, +33.1.44.78.aabb, emma, +1.678.235.aacc, pmurray, kcoyle, tbaker, edsu, +1.404.892.aadd
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15:22:37 <tbaker> [adjourned]
15:22:44 <tbaker> zakim, list attendees
15:22:44 <Zakim> sorry, tbaker, I don't know what conference this is
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