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HTML-A11y Bug Triage telecon

06 Sep 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Michael_Cooper, Hans_Hillen, Léonie_Watson, Joshue_O_Connor
Regrets
Marco_Ranon, Gez_Lemon
Chair
Léonie_Watson
Scribe
Joshue, Hans Hillen

Contents


<Joshue> scribe: Joshue

<MichaelC> scribe: Joshue

Tagged bugs review

<MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13661

To be assigned to Cynthia

<MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13662

MC: This is the same situation.

To be assigned to Cynthia

<MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13666

MC: Recommended this as a TF priority, but not a high one.

<MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13667

MC: The title att is overloaded, this is a TF priority

<agreement>

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668

MC: There is work to be done on this but we should track it.

HH: This is where content isn't seen?

MC: There are lots of different issues.

<agreement to add a11ytf keyword>

MC: We could assign it to Greg
... He's not formally a member tho
... He's in UAAG
... We could bring it up on Thurs a11y call

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13669

MC: Batch changes to DOM
... I think we don't need to track it, because it has been addressed by Ian but if Greg isn't satisfied then it is an issue.
... Assign to Greg, get confirmation that it is an issue but don't add keyword.

HH: Is the issue about group firing of DOM events?
... If you have a batch of DOM mutation events the AT needs to be informed.

MC: It may be tolerable, if not ideal.

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13724

MC: Not an a11y priority

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727

MC: This is a TF issue, and is attached to text sub group.

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13728

MC: We need to discuss this
... We have been dealing with this in the Text Sub group.
... I want to add a dependency to 8171

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13729

MC: Dup of 10642
... Don't need to track

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13730

MC: Dup of 13729

There are no URIs for Marcos bugs

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13359

LW: Ask John Foliot to follow up

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13377

LW: Go with Marcos recommendation

MR: I think allowing CAPTION outside tables would

create more confusion.

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13383

John Foliot to follow up

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13390

LW: To be labelled with a11ytf keyword

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13400

LW: Marco suggests ignore.

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13416

JOC: We may want to take some time to parse this

LW" Will we assign it to Rich?

HH: Is it an editorial change?

MC: We should assign it to Rich to determine if it is a TF priority
... Or to close it.

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461

LW: Comment on longdesc, has text, a11y keyword etc

MC: This needs to be tagged to the TF as a whole

JOC: Probably worth discussing by wider group

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13497

LW: Marco asked for clarification

MC: I don't agree with the bug
... It could result in overloading the word 'alternate'.

LW: We won't worry about tagging this one

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13510

JOC: There is no bug description

MC: This may be a placeholder bug, more info needed
... This is also filled against the HTML API doc
... No need to track

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13520

LW: Bug closed, seems ok.

MC: Assign to Andrew and ask for verification

Gez's Bugs

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13731

JOC: They will defo say this is a user agent issue

HH: Why?

MC: This is specific to the audio element

LW: Should we monitor it?

MC: We should track.

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13732

LW: Is the canvas group tracking?

MC: We should track as it relates to work we are doing

JOC: +1 to tracking

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13733

JOC: There is an issue of context, is it in conjunction with <canvas> etc then its an issue.

MC: I think this is an issue
... I am surprised at Ian's response
... I think we should track it

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13734

JOC: Is that text on Input elements spec text?

The main URI is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2011Aug/0008.html

VHA Comments on HTML5 Draft Specification

JOC: I agree with it, the bug is a detail from above.

MC: This bug isn't adding anything, it is dealt with in other a11y bugs

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13736

HH: Its from the VHA

JOC: What should we do with these, the feedback is useful but not suitable bug fodder?
... Quite a few of these are comments from the VHA.

LW: THere is useful info here.

MC: API mapping is up to a seperate doc.

<hhillen> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13738

<hhillen> LW: We should track it

<scribe> Scribe:Hans Hillen

<hhillen> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13739

<MichaelC> scribeNick: hhillen

MC: We need to assign this to someone to provide more info

HH: This is another VHA bug that basically states text, caret andselection info needs to be properly exposed for editable content

LW: We'll tag it with the keyword and bring it up at the task force meeting on Thursday

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13814

LW: duplicate of 13733

MC: If it's the same as 13733 and this one provides better detail, this should be marked as blocks 13733, add the task force keyword

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13833

LW: It's a suggestion for a new image element that contains tactile information for tactile displays
... I'm not sure this would need a specific tag

MC: It sounds like we should reach out to this person outside the bug process, but we don't want to track this.

Summary of Action Items

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