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SVG Working Group Teleconference

09 Feb 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Doug_Schepers, ed, +39.537.7.aaaa, [Microsoft], ChrisL, +39.537.7.aabb, adrianba, +39.537.7.aacc
Regrets
Chair
erik
Scribe
shepazu, pdengler

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 09 February 2011

<shepazu> scribenick: shepazu

SVG in HTML / SVG Integration

tbah: I've sent in some use cases for using SVG as a substitute for PNG, with a PNG fallback, and I'm running into sandboxing issues around events

shepazu: given <a href="foo.html"><iframe or object/></a> or <div onclick="foo()"><iframe or object/></div>, is there a security problem with firing an event in the host document, as well as any interaction within the referenced SVG?

pdengler: this works in IE9

tbah: not in any other browser I tested

<ed> if the data attribute in <object type="image/svg+xml" data="buttonA.svg"> was replaced to point to an html document instead, would the same thing happen?

pdengler: yes, works with .html as well

shepazu: works as img in WebKit, doesn't work as object

<ChrisL> tref should be able to solve some of the text issues

<ChrisL> but is inconsistently implemented

http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/param/master/SVGParamPrimer.html

ChrisL: could be good to have alt text brought in as SVG tref content

ed: would be good to have a table of browser results, also with .html content as well as .svg

shepazu: maybe Tav can help with SVG Integration spec

tbah: sure
... looks like "currentColor" lets you reuse CSS from outside SVG

ChrisL: only in the same tree

shepazu: would be nice to be able to inherit style from parent document, if there's no security problem

<ed> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/the-iframe-element.html#the-iframe-element

ed: we should be able to use @seamless
... we should apply that to other types of inclusion for SVG2

<pdengler> scribeNick: pdengler

<scribe> ACTION: to tbah to create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<scribe> ACTION: tbah to to create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2954 - To create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html [on Tavmjong Bah - due 2011-02-16].

SVG 1.1 2nd edition

ed: Anthonyh checked in changes for issue:2339 for elevation filters and added a test

<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0134.html

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339

<ed> ISSUE-2339?

<trackbot> ISSUE-2339 -- Last Call Comment: definition of azimuth, elevation for feDistantLight -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339

ed: We have to just all agree it's a good change and review the tests.

actin: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight

<scribe> ACTION: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2955 - Review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Full_11

ed: all other of my work items are mostly closed

ChrisL: I have an open action of removing wording on higlighting link. There was a related item on fixing the tests.
... Those are checked in.
... I also have the changing the appendix action which I am half way through with

<scribe> topic : Last few test cases on Test Matrix

<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/implementation_matrix.html

shepazu: What else remains?

ed: Need to produce implementation report

ChrisL: What we are using is a perfectly good impelmentation report
... Broken links and valid HTML can take a while to hunt down

<ed> text-altglyph-02-b

ed: We need at least one implementation to move on
... Opera passes and batik has a partial passing. This might be one that heycam could look at.
... We could split the case into to parts

pdengler: If we do that can we put it into the "fonts" category

<scribe> ACTION: ed to split the tests and consider renaming to Fonts prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2956 - Split the tests and consider renaming to Fonts prefix [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg

ed: Batik / Safari partial pass and Opera passes.

<scribe> ACTION: ed to split up test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg and recategorize under fonts [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2957 - Split up test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg and recategorize under fonts [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

<ChrisL> linking-uri-02-b

<ChrisL> need retests results for linking-uri-02-b and metadata-example-01-t for IE9 and Safari

<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg

<ed> "The test relies on support for WebFonts - either SVG Fonts, or WOFF, or OpenType."

<ed> but no WOFF or opentype fonts are linked to

ChrisL: This font is used in a few spots and I cannot convert this font. But I will make a font that works for this test

ed: It relies on the advances of the fonts

<scribe> ACTION: ChrisL to provide alternate font for tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or some other font) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2958 - Provide alternate font for tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or some other font) [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-02-16].

<ChrisL> fontforge seems to have an issue with importing svg fonts that use characters beyone plane zero

ed: As a back up plan, we could pull this out of the test suite and hold for a future time

<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg

<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0019.html

<scribe> ACTION: ed to break down test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2959 - Break down test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

SVG Face to Face

<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Auckland_2011/Agenda

<ed> If you are leading a session or have proposals up for discussion, these must be on the wiki by Monday 14 February 2011 so that participants have a chance to read and consider them before the meeting.

ed: Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for your topics by Monday 2/15
... Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for your topics by Monday 2/14
... Heycam and I will arrange agenda page and allocate time.

marker colors and path colors

<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0137.html

<tbah> Just got hung up on, be back in a sec...

<ed> trackbot, close telcon

<trackbot> Sorry, ed, I don't understand 'trackbot, close telcon'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

<ed> rrs-agent, make minutes

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: ChrisL to provide alternate font for tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or some other font) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to break down test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to split the tests and consider renaming to Fonts prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to split up test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg and recategorize under fonts [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: tbah to to create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: to tbah to create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action01]
 
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