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<trackbot> Date: 07 October 2010
<ChrisL> anthony, are you in a position to quickly turn the crank to update the test suite status?
<ChrisL> zakim +39 is tbah
<pdengler> scribeNick: pdengler
Setting up meeting with CSS Group
... Will there be a session for publicFX?
ChrisL: Yes, there will be a
meeting for that task force
... No time yet established
... Will we need a phone
anthony: chance I'll be attending
ed: Will Tav be dialing in?
pdengler: what are our options for getting a phone?
ChrisL: I've asked for a regular call in phone
<ChrisL> a polycom bridge thing
ed: Got an email from Alex asking to fill out the form and asking whether or not we need a flip cord
ChrisL: I already asked for this
<ChrisL> already asked for a polycom phone and a flip chart
ChrisL: they are allocating rooms
pdengler: If I have payed have i regesitered?
ChrisL: Not necessarily
shepazu: that's 6 of us if Tony can make it
pdengler: (galaga sounds)
<ChrisL> zakim who is making noise?
ed: Any items that we want on the agenda for TPAC
ChrisL: Are we expected to have implementations ready by then?
ed: I wanted that as another
... Unless we have the report it is not going to be done at the time, and it depends upon how many tests there are
pdengler: We discussed that we wouldn't get this done mostly because we want to get the microsoft tests reviewed and the analysis about potential name chages from Microsoft for some of themn
ChrisL: I've done 'de-red-ding'
... Which is why I was asking Anthony to run the status regen, but I am basically down to basic shapes
... I wanted to get a better handle on how we were doing
anthony: I went through the test suite to generate the XML impelementation report file and some just don't have approval
ChrisL: I think there are more now than there were yesterday
anthony: There were only 300 or so tests that had been accepted
ChrisL: last one that was run was a month ago
ed: When can we have then, the full list of tests?
ChrisL: I am 3/4 done.
pdengler: Does that include the ones Microsoft submitted?
ChrisL: No, mine was for the
previous, older ones
... We should talk about the recent tests and go through those
pdengler: Last conf call we discussed Microsoft's effort to do an all-up surface review to help modularize the test suite so developers can understand the support for SVG better across impelemntations
anthony: I see 408 accepted tests now
ed: I would like to have the template ready to test before TPAC
What does testing before TPAC mean?
ed: If we have some preliminary
results from some implementations, we can start doing the
... we don't expect the tests that have already been accepted to change, and we can therefore test and rely on those results
... the tests that are already accepted should be tested
<shepazu> scribeNick: shepazu
pdengler: I hear what you're
... there's a set of tests that we all agree on and are stable
... and doug is saying this doesn't preclude us from recategorizing them
... my question is, are we going to publish the results before the recategorization and analysis
ChrisL: depends on what you mean
... we need to get a sense of where we are, to push implementations
... this will not be the final implementation report that we publish for transition from CR to PR to Rec
pdengler: so, with regard to new tests... we would like to submit a few more tests for inclusion in the implementation report
ChrisL: we are open to reviewing them
ed: I think they are nice tests, just a matter of resources
ChrisL: I've reviewed about half
of the new MS tests
... of the first lot
ed: I'd like to prioritize the tests relevant to second edition
pdengler: what was the quality of the tests, ChrisL?
ChrisL: the first tests had some
errors, but they have improved over time
... most are straightforward
... I haven't looked at the more recent batch
ed: the ones I've seen I had to adapt to the test framework, which is a pita
pdengler: that's because SVG fonts is in the template
<ChrisL> which are used for labelling text. its not needed to pass the tests
<ChrisL> i would expect the svg 2 test suite to use woff fonts
shepazu: I think we should go through some tests and report errors that make them hard to review, so microsoft can improve conformance to the template
<ed> some feedback from me on the last batch of tests: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/0136.html
<pdengler> shepazu: We will push through some spot testing (Doug, Chris, maybe Tony) of recently submitted tests on Monday
<pdengler> pdengler: How about we adjust the tests based on the feedback first (the tests we submitted0
<pdengler> pdengler: If that is before Monday we will let you know
<ChrisL> nuqDaq 'oH puchpa''e'
<pdengler> pdengler: plan is to start spot testing on Monday
<pdengler> anthony: I am redoing status report now
<pdengler> ChrisL: on the subject of implementations, alex danilo is sending his work so I will run the tests
<pdengler> pdengler: I have some opinions on backward compat and "promoting" attributes to properties at a high level which I am still working through
<ed> think you need to install Image::Magick (via CPAN)
<trackbot> ISSUE-2353 -- Last Call Comment: Clarify coordinates for feImage. -- raised
<ed> "the default subregion is 0%,0%,100%,100%, where as a special-case the percentages are relative to the dimensions of the filter region, thus making the the default filter primitive subregion equal to the filter region."
<anthony> Scribe: anthony
TB: The the change regarding that issue is fine
<trackbot> ISSUE-2339 -- Last Call Comment: definition of azimuth, elevation for feDistantLight -- open
<shepazu> scribenick: anthony
AG: Hoping to have my investigation finished for the telcon nextweek
ED: That's the list of last call issues
CL: If people let me know when we are in good shape I'll do another update
AG: Might be worth doing an update end of next week
ED: Noticed that CSS wanted to have premultiplied values for the gradient interpolation
CL: The idea is to get around a
grey effect that they didn't like
... I've made a change to CSS Color which says that transparent gives you transparent black
DS: This touches on the topic
... where SVG has a separate opacity
CL: Means that SVG needs to deal
... and it the just need to multiply together
... it's not too hard for us to add that
... and we already have the infrustructure to add that
... Opera already implements that
ED: FF since v3.5 IIRC has that as well
trackbot, end telcon
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