Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference -- 27 Jul 2010

<trackbot> Date: 27 July 2010

<amalhotr> new nick, Ashok

<amalhotr> newnick, Ashok

<amalhotr> scribe: amalhotr

<Bob_> scribenick: amslhotr

Agenda bashing

<dug> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9703

<amalhotr> Ram: Asks about 9703

<Ram> Antoine Mensch

<amalhotr> ... Antoine Mensch was asking about 9703

<amalhotr> ... perhaps we did not communicate our response to him

<amalhotr> c/amslhotr/amalhotr/

<amalhotr> Bob: Decided on May f2f

<amalhotr> ... ACTION: Gil to respond ...

<amalhotr> Gil: I will respond to him

<dug> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/05/2010-05-12.html#item13

<amalhotr> Bob: Reasoning ... we believe complexity will blow up

<amalhotr> Bob: All others agreed to our disposition or have not responded

<amalhotr> No other changes to agenda

<Bob_> last minutes at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/06/2010-06-29.html

Minutes of June 29

<amalhotr> at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/06/2010-06-29.html

<amalhotr> Approved w/o objection

Schedule for primer and migration guide

<amalhotr> MEX - Katy Eventing - Gil & Wu Frag - Doug

<amalhotr> Bob: We are going on hiatus for a while please think about this

f2f meeting

<amalhotr> Face to Face meeting in Lyon 1st week of November 1-6

<amalhotr> Bob: During the TPAC

<amalhotr> ... many there in any case

<dug> +q

<amalhotr> ... shd we retain our slot on TPAC program

<amalhotr> Ram: Seems like a good idea ... we can check on features at risk

<amalhotr> Doug: Use it as interop event?

<amalhotr> Ram: No, just discuss features which various vendors are going to implemnt

<amalhotr> Doug: When are you thinking abt interop event

<amalhotr> ... I may not be able to go to France

<amalhotr> ... I suggest we postpone f2f until we can do interop testing

<amalhotr> ... do we need to coordinate with any other groups

<amalhotr> Bob: I don't think we need to coordinate with any other groups

<amalhotr> Bob: Don't have implementation schedules yet

<amalhotr> TomRutt: Can we have a short mtg where others can attend by phone

<amalhotr> Ram: I may be there

<amalhotr> Bob: Martin and Katy may be able to attend

<amalhotr> TomRutt: How abt a half-day/morning meeting?

<amalhotr> Bob: We may not have any serious issues ... just tests

<amalhotr> Bob: I'm inclined to tell the W3C to release the rooms at TPAC

<amalhotr> ... we could have a f2f/testing event later

<amalhotr> ... I will release the rooms

LCWD Comments (New)

<amalhotr> postponed

Second Last call WG publication Sept 10 last comment date?

<dug> Latest Enum: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/edcopies/wsenum.html

<amalhotr> Bob: Let us accept issues we have resolved and close them

<amalhotr> ... can we close all resolved issues?

<amalhotr> No objection

<amalhotr> Bob: We can go on hiatus and publish LCWD

<amalhotr> Bob: Any objection to publishing a seconf last call?

<amalhotr> No objection

<amalhotr> Bob: I suggest we have last call till Sept 10

<amalhotr> Doug: We could work on scenario docs ... could help flush out bugs

<amalhotr> Ram: many people in Europe are on vacation ... they want last call till late Sept

<amalhotr> TomRutt: How about meetings every 2 weeks?

<amalhotr> Doug: How abt next mtg Aug 17 and then meet weekly to discuss scenario docs.

<amalhotr> Bob: Lets have next mtg Aug 17

<amalhotr> Bob: How about Last call till Sept 17?

<amalhotr> Bob: After Aug 17 we can start filling in scenario docs

<amalhotr> ... would be good to have some to look at

<amalhotr> Doug: IBM will do some MEX scenarios

<amalhotr> Gil: We can do eventing

<amalhotr> Doug: Ram could you do Enum?

<amalhotr> Ram: Yes, but no timeline yet

<amalhotr> Doug: Involve WSTF in our testing?

<amalhotr> ... they can do regression test and create matrix

<amalhotr> TomRutt: How do we use WSTF?

<amalhotr> Doug: They would help the process not be a participant

<amalhotr> Ram: Not clear if MSFT will join WSTF

<amalhotr> Gil: WSTF may result in a net savings of effort

<amalhotr> ... they will provide some infrastructure

<amalhotr> Bob: Has MSFT rejected membership in WSFT?

<amalhotr> Ram: Many different angles

<dug> non-wstf members can still participate

<amalhotr> ... whether MSFT joins WSTF goes beyond this WG.

<amalhotr> Doug: An WSTF member can add yr endpoint but you willnot be able to see the results ... the private WSTF stuff

<amalhotr> Ram: Discusses WSTF pros and cons

<amalhotr> Bob: Is there a WSTF methodology that we could replicate on W3C?

<amalhotr> Doug: There is no rocket science

<amalhotr> Bob: This could be useful for HTML testing ...

<amalhotr> Bob: Ram, you could mention it to Paul ... may solve some of his problems

Implementation plans update will plans be known for next meeting?

<dug> wsdd

<dug> wsdd tc in oasis

<amalhotr> Ram: WSDD WG wants to know/share testing plans ... coverage

<amalhotr> Bob: Our plans are all public

<amalhotr> Bob: can we shoot for Sept 13, IBM, Oracle ...

<amalhotr> Bob: Agenda for Sept 13 will be implementation plans

<dug> http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-resource-transfer/

<amalhotr> Ram: Is it under the 'obsolete' category?

<amalhotr> Bob: Webmaster said he would take care of it

<amalhotr> Bob: AOB?

<amalhotr> Bob: Adjourned

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Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference

27 Jul 2010

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