Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

[David Storey of Operra Software, introduction]

Status of sign-ups to new group

Dom: If people are having touble signing up, should contact me

<dom> http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/status

Jo: Someone asked how they can tell if their AC rep has done it.

Dom: Status list [link above]

F2f Agenda

Jo: Nothing more to add.

<dom> ACTION-835?

<trackbot> ACTION-835 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to contact Stéphane to see if he is interested in presenting MW4D to BPWG at TPAC -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/835

Dom: Stéphane Boyera will be able to present during F2F. Should let him know what day we want.

Reports from Task Forces

Francois: content Transform TF. We decided to keep it going for now to complete work on documents (LC comments)
... Will take a few weeks.

Jo: Korean TF, nobody present, Checker, nobody present

Document Updates

<dom> ACTION-837?

<trackbot> ACTION-837 -- Kai Scheppe to provide explanatory text for the addendum which will put the document (mobileOK Pro Tests 1) in the correct context and explain to the audience that it is intended to aid content authors in creating still better content. -- due 2008-09-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/837

Kai: Have not been able to read comments

Adam: BP 2.0. Have not been able to work on it in August, but have received more BPs to add. Will send list to group.

Jo: Should track as issues?

Adam: Seven from Bryan one from Jo.

<dom> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/new

<manrique> about the checker, miguel has told me that there aren't news

Accessibility and mandatory poll

see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Sep/0002.html

<dom> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/37584/WAI-Mobile-Experiences/results

<dom> 4 answers

<dom> (closed yesterday)

Francois: Not many people have answered mandatory poll.

<dom> ACTION-820?

<trackbot> ACTION-820 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to look at providing examples for accessibility document -- due 2008-09-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/820

Jeff: Will soon be meeting and reviewing the document

Jo: should hold off finishing this document until Jeff has reported.

Jeff: Need three or four weeks

Yeliz, Alan: No problem

Dom: don't foresee any IP problems

<dom> s/andy/any/

<jeffs> have updated ACTION-820 to read: due 2008-10-02, and "open"

Yeliz: Have addressed dom's comments, now need to do Jo's comments

Jo: Please extend poll by four weeks.

http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20080901

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-eo-editors/2008Sep/0000.html

Alan: Comments received from Lisa Pappas yet to be addressed.
... Will published new WD.

<dom> ACTION-841?

<trackbot> ACTION-841 -- Jo Rabin to review WSC comment and propose new wording -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/841

<dom> Jo's reworked text for mobileOK

<dom> +1

Jo: Basic Tests. Comments received from Thomas. Is editorial change.

<francois> +1

Jo: comments on proposal?

[None]

Actions & issues

<dom> Pending Review actions

<dom> ACTION-688?

<trackbot> ACTION-688 -- David Storey to check if Opera supports WBXML in and/or out of its WML support -- due 2008-03-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/688

<dom> David's response

David: waiting reply from Opera Mini team

<dom> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: WBXML isn't widely supported enough for non-WML languages to warrant recommendations in the MWABP

<jo> +1

<francois> +1

<Kai> +1

<jeffs> +1

<dstorey> +1

<manrique> +1

RESOLUTION: WBXML isn't widely supported enough for non-WML languages to warrant recommendations in the MWABP

<dom> close ACTION-688

<trackbot> ACTION-688 Check if Opera supports WBXML in and/or out of its WML support closed

<dom> ACTION-689?

<trackbot> ACTION-689 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to check XHR compression -- due 2008-03-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/689

Dom: No changes needed to document.

<dom> Dom's investigations of compressed XHR

<dom> close ACTION-689

<trackbot> ACTION-689 Check XHR compression closed

<dom> ACTION-786?

<trackbot> ACTION-786 -- Jo Rabin to draft wording for an appendix that identifies the aggregators and operator roles that are different in the mobile ecosystem. -- due 2008-06-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/786

<dom> Jo's wording

<hgerlach> sorry, have to leave for next meeting-bye

<dom> ACTION-792?

<trackbot> ACTION-792 -- Abel Rionda to propose some text on SVG -- due 2008-07-31 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/792

<dom> Abel's contribution

<dom> ACTION-793?

<trackbot> ACTION-793 -- Kai Scheppe to work with Scott to produce proposed text on caching that goes beyond BP 1 -- due 2008-06-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/793

<dom> Kai's contribution

<dom> ACTION-824?

<trackbot> ACTION-824 -- Bryan Sullivan to raise issues on things he's not happy about, especially personalisation -- due 2008-08-06 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/824

<dom> close ACTION-824

<trackbot> ACTION-824 Raise issues on things he's not happy about, especially personalisation closed

<dom> ACTION: Adam to raise ISSUEs based on Bryan's comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-844 - Raise ISSUEs based on Bryan's comments [on Adam Connors - due 2008-09-18].

<dom> Kai: we've put in practice what we've described above - it does work

<dom> ACTION-826?

<trackbot> ACTION-826 -- Jo Rabin to work with _DAN_ and Francois to set up a web form, deadline a couple of weeks -- due 2008-09-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/826

<dom> close ACTION-826

<trackbot> ACTION-826 Work with _DAN_ and Francois to set up a web form, deadline a couple of weeks closed

<dom> ACTION-827?

<trackbot> ACTION-827 -- Jo Rabin to follow up on what happened to ETSI liaison at their end -- due 2008-09-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/827

<Kai> ACTION: Kai to finalize information on caching concept, now live, and contribute it to the list. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-845 - Finalize information on caching concept, now live, and contribute it to the list. [on Kai Scheppe - due 2008-09-18].

<dom> close ACTION-827

<trackbot> ACTION-827 Follow up on what happened to ETSI liaison at their end closed

<dom> close ACTION-828

<trackbot> ACTION-828 Get back on LC-2043 and simialr pointing out what we are trying to achieve and asking for clarification closed

<dom> ACTION-835?

<trackbot> ACTION-835 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to contact Stéphane to see if he is interested in presenting MW4D to BPWG at TPAC -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/835

<dom> ACTION-841?

<trackbot> ACTION-841 -- Jo Rabin to review WSC comment and propose new wording -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/841

<dom> -1

Open actions

<dom> 25 overdue actions

<dom> sorted by owner

<dom> ACTION-790?

<trackbot> ACTION-790 -- Alan Chuter to produce some text around accessibility of Javascript for Web Application Best Practices -- due 2008-07-03 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/790

Alan: Apologies, promises to do it for next week.

<dom> ACTION-797?

<trackbot> ACTION-797 -- Adam Connors to check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser -- due 2008-06-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/797

<dom> ACTION-797: Adam says this cannot be done with a reasonable amount of efforts

<trackbot> ACTION-797 Check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser notes added

Adam: Can not be done with reasonable amount of work. Propose not to do it.

Kai: We can close it.

Jeff: Have been asked about this by several developers. Would prefere postponing it.
... Will come back with more information next week.

<dom> ACTION-797?

<trackbot> ACTION-797 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser -- due 2008-09-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/797

Kai: Had picked a value of 30, Jeff please check it with your people.

<dom> ACTION-823?

<trackbot> ACTION-823 -- Adam Connors to stimulate another round of discussion on what is missing from BP-2 FPWD -- due 2008-08-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/823

<dom> ACTION-824?

<trackbot> ACTION-824 -- Bryan Sullivan to raise issues on things he's not happy about, especially personalisation -- due 2008-08-07 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/824

<dom> ISSUE-265?

<trackbot> ISSUE-265 -- Discussion of Jonathan's Submission ref separation of structure presentation and behavior at http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhpvgnmn_54d7cbhrhn -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/265

<dom> ACTION-794?

<trackbot> ACTION-794 -- Adam Connors to lead off discussion on ISSUE-265 following completion of next draft BP2 -- due 2008-07-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/794

<dom> ACTION-804?

<trackbot> ACTION-804 -- François Daoust to see with Soonho if he can find someone else to provide feedback on the document -- due 2008-07-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/804

<dom> ACTION-804: Francois pinged him several times, no reply

<trackbot> ACTION-804 See with Soonho if he can find someone else to provide feedback on the document notes added

<dom> close ACTION-804

<trackbot> ACTION-804 See with Soonho if he can find someone else to provide feedback on the document closed

<dom> ACTION-721?

<trackbot> ACTION-721 -- François Daoust to prepare a report's form to fill to test Aaron static/dynamic example -- due 2008-08-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/721

<dom> ACTION-799?

<trackbot> ACTION-799 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get back to rigo on updating the mobileOK license -- due 2008-07-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/799

<dom> ACTION-762?

<trackbot> ACTION-762 -- Jo Rabin to review ISSUE-250 with a view to how this affects content of mobileOK scheme -- due 2008-05-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/762

<jo> ACTION-806?

<trackbot> ACTION-806 -- Bryan Sullivan to send initial comments on Widget Requirements -- due 2008-07-10 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/806

<dom> close ACTION-806

<trackbot> ACTION-806 Send initial comments on Widget Requirements closed

<dom> ISSUE-249?

<trackbot> ISSUE-249 -- Should we include information use of DCCI in BP2? -- RAISED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/249

dom: two still pending review
... Propose closing 249, out of scope

<dom> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The WG is not responsible for transferring the techniques any longer. Close ISSUE-239.

<dom> ISSUE-239?

<trackbot> ISSUE-239 -- We still have not found a suitable home for the Techniques. -- RAISED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/239

<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The WG is not responsible for transferring the techniques any longer. Close ISSUE-239.

<francois> +1

<dom> +1

<jeffs> +1

<jo> +1

RESOLUTION: The WG is not responsible for transferring the techniques any longer. Close ISSUE-239

<dom> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/

AOB

<dom> current registrants for next F2F

<jeffs> I'm there &reg

[Call ends]

<manrique> bye

<yeliz> bye

<jeffs> quit