W3C

RDF-in-XHTML Task Force

07 Aug 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2008-07-31

Attendees

Present
Michael Hausenblas, Ralph Swick, Steven Pemberton
Regrets
Manu Sporny, Ben Adida, Jeremy Carroll, Mark Birbeck
Chair
(collective)
Scribe
Ralph

Contents


Action Review

all open actions still pending

Implementation Report

-> Implementation Report

Michael: we have one more implementation than we need to meet our CR exit criteria
... Fabien reported the results of his XSLT implementation so I'll include his results

<mhausenblas> Fabiens proposal

Ralph: what about Fabien's note of a bug in the manifest for 52 & 53?

<mhausenblas> Freezed RDFa TC for IR

Michael: I wonder if Fabien has an old version of the manifest, as the other implementations pass
... nope, seems to be the same in the manifest
... I'll have to check this with Manu

<mhausenblas> reference negative TC

Michael: compare with test 86

Ralph: looking at http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#sec_6.1.1.
... 6.1.1.5.

<mhausenblas> approval of TC 52 and 53

Ralph: consider rule 4 in http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#sec_5.5.

Michael: as we have no @about, the subject becomes the value of @resource

Ralph: so the comment in the Purpose column of Section 3 of the implementation report is wrong for tests 52 and 53

ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]

Ralph: the worrisome thing is that Fabien believes the test should be a negative test, in contradiction to the other 5 reported implementations. Perhaps he is believing the incorrect text in the Purpose column, but if he thinks there are words in the spec that say the opposite we should track this down

Michael: is section 4 sufficient, or does it need to be longer?

Ralph: the implementation report is only to show that we have completed our CR requirements
... so fine to add more if we know but OK to point to the Wiki

Michael: what else do we need for WG review?

Ralph: we need a final editor's draft and to include the XSLT implementation in the report
... since there has been so much discussion of using GRDDL for RDFa, to omit the XSLT implementation would raise many questions

Michael: do the WGs need to review the implementation report?

Ralph: were we committed to publishing it as a Group Note?

-> RDFa Deliverables

<mhausenblas> 5-Aug SWD minutes

Ralph: I don't believe that the WGs intend to publish the Implementation Report as a TR
... so it just stays in its current form and you can continually improve it as comments arrive

Steven: alternating between the Implementation Report and the Implementation Wiki, it's hard to find the similarities
... perhaps I'll try to update the Wiki
... Micah Dubinko reported a new implementation this week

Michael: once Manu updates the test harness to point to a new implementation I just need to regenerate the EARL

Steven: the terminology in the Wiki is different from the terminology in the Implementation Report
... one talks about 'client side' and the other talks about 'plug-ins'

Michael: the audiences are different

Steven: how shall we report editorial errors in the IR?

Michael: wait 1 or 2 days while I work in Ben's client-side wording and tests 52 and 53 then I'll send a call for comments

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to contact Ed and Diego about new editors drafts coming down the pipe. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu to create test cases for testing relative URI resolution (href/CURIEs/etc). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark to update RDFa Syntax document, section 5.4.2 to be explicit about which algorithm is used to resolve relative URIs. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to complete implementation report and send out notification to all working groups. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to work with Ben on proposing specific editorial changes to RDFa Syntax document based on ISSUE-122. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to log all CR issues to tracker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to talk to Alan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to update Primer according to resolution, and add note about "it was designed to eventually work in HTML, etc..." [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu to start a wiki page for HTML4/5 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu: Start Best Practices Section on the rdfa.info wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to make http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new XSLT URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]

 
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