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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty

Jun 03 Tom - regrets Guus

Jun 10 Guus

Jun 17 Tom

Jun 24 Guus

PROPOSED to accept minutes of the last telecon:

http://www.w3.org/2008/05/20-swd-minutes.html

Ralph: are minutes complete wrt notation stuff?

Guus: resolved we accept minutes.

SKOS

-- Primer (Antoine, Ed)

http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DraftPrimer

-- Reference (Alistair, Sean)

http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosReference20080125

-- Open issues

http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/3

ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: alistair and sean to add a note about irreflexivity to Reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]

seanb: This is being done in next working draft we publish

ACTION: Alistair to check the old namespace wrt dereferencing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Guus and Alistair write text for Reference indicating understanding of a possible need for future patterns for n-Ary label relations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action08]

Guus: no need for this?

Alistair: I'm happy for us to drop this

--DROPPED

ACTION: Ralph compose intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec and http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ to inform readers of the paths to the old and new SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Sean and Alistair to send a file for the namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES]

<seanb> See -> http://potato.cs.man.ac.uk/2008/05/

seanb: I'm serving vocabularies on my own machine. You can look at this to see what you'll get for SKOS vocabularies.

ACTION: Sean to write a proposal to indicate to OWL WG our requirements for annotation properties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Clay will respond to Jakob about the resolution for notations and x-notation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]

ACTION: Editors of the Use Cases to clean up the lists of requirements in light of resolutions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

<Ralph> Notations in SKOS [Clay 2008-05-27]

ACTION: Margherita to liase with author primer about example using plain literals and some with datatype literals [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/20-swd-minutes.html#action17] [CONTINUES]

Alistair: we had some examples of chemical symbols
... how do you represent this if we include SKOS notation
... we need to see more examples and work them through

<Ralph> RE: Issue-76: SymbolicLabels [Margherita 2008-05-26]

<Ralph> Sean: I was expecting a bit more detail than was in Margherita's mail of yesterday

ACTION: Guus to mail his position on issues 72, 73 and 75 to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action25] [CONTINUES]

Guus: over next few weeks we must resolve the open issues in the minutes
... Do we have enough material--we left this open at the F2F

<Ralph> issue-76; SymbolicLabels

Guus: we are now talking about whether to drop them

Alistair: The ongoing discussions are about notation and not symbol labels. We need Margerita's examples.
... I don't think we can do more there right now

<Ralph> Alistair: Margherita's examples seem no longer to need symbolic lables

Guus: looks like need for symbolic labels will be dropped

TomB: I propose we drop it

<aliman> +1

<Antoine> +1

Guus: Proposed not to carry forward SKOS: prefSymbol and altSymbol into the new namespace
... for lack clear requirements

<Ralph> +1

Guus: seconds?

--RESOLVED

<TomB> RESOLVED: not to carry forward skos:prefSymbol and skos:altSymbol into the new namespace for lack of clear requirements

<Ralph> closes issue-76

-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/78 - SubjectIndicators

Alistair: I think this is out of scope

<Ralph> issue-78; SubjectIndicators

PROPOSED: to not carry forward SKOS subject indicators
... it is out of scope.

Guus: seconds?

<aliman> I second.

RESOLVED: not to carry forward skos:prefSymbol and skos:altSymbol into the new namespace for lack of clear requirements

-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/80 - SKOS-OWL-Patterns

seanb: Question as to how to publish/describe them

<Ralph> [issue-78 closed]

seanb: I don't see this as part of the technical material to be produced.

<aliman> I agree with seanb

Guus: we might see if people want to write stuff about this in the primer.
... This doesn't affect technical design of SKOS.

sean: This doesn't affect the design of what we're doing

Alistair: we've kept our options open in design of SKOS

seanb: we are not saying this isn't important issue. It just need not be in the reference.
... nor in the primer.

PROPOSAL: to close issue 80

Guus: the technical issues of SKOS/OWL have already been dealt with
... seconds?

<aliman> I second

RESOLVED: to close issue 80 as the technical issues of SKOS/OWL have already been dealt with

[issue-80 closed]

seanb: I'll take an action to keep this going forward

ACTION: seanb to set up wiki for SKOS/OWL patterns [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-swd-minutes.html#action14]

<aliman> For the record, i think a SKOS/OWL usage note would make a great piece of work, and I really hope Alan Rector & Robert Stevens can contribute.

<TomB> RESOLVED: technical issues of SKOS/OWL have already been dealt with

<seanb>

<Ralph> "progress on SKOS Reference"

Alistair: I have written a new section on mapping properties. Also first draft on extending labels.

<Ralph> editors' draft $Revision: 1.5 $ on $Date: 2008/05/28 13:46:13 $

Alistair: These are the major content pieces of work to produce new editors' draft
... seanb and I felt we could produce a revised draft by next Tues

Guus: I would be in favor of publishing that draft
... I propose to publish it as it is without formal review

<TomB> +1 to publish without formal review

Guus: How do editors feel about that?

<seanb> Fine with me.

ACTION: Editors to produce a revised working draft for next week on which we can vote [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-swd-minutes.html#action15]

<aliman> master SKOS Reference

RDFa

benadida: I have updated primer to include to respond to comments from Ed and Diego.
... Primer at this point will be ready to go to official working draft.
... We're not discussing and about to close last substantive issue on tracker.
... looks like the issue that has been raised is not significant enough to require change in syntax document.

Guus: so we're adead of the agenda.

Ben: the primer is ready to go after I do one more pass over it.

Guus: on June 10 can we make request for candidate rec?
... The implementation report need not be done by June 10.

Ben: I think June 10 is good goal.

Guus: What we need is a pointer to the docs and an indication how you handled last call comments.
... you can point to the tracker.

Ralph: I'll have to produce the enumeration for a director decision.

Guus: In Aug, we need implementation report.

Ben: we keep adding new implementations, which has held up faster completion.

<edsu> yahoo++

Ralph: At Semantic Technologies Conference, Yahoo said searchmonkey will support RDFa.

Ben: They parse pages and it all ends up in RSS with RDFa.
... they will be parsing RDFa in XHTML.

Guus: we could take a decision next week.

Ben: just want to make sure we've closed the issues.

ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES]

RECIPES

ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ed to review the new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]

ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES]

<Ralph> Ed's review of Recipes editors' draft

ACTION: Ralph to review the new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

Ralph: I will do it this week

VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT

Guus: none of the editors are here
... Hopefully mor progress on this next week.
... Adjourned

<Ralph> Guus: Regrets for next week

<edsu> Ralph: oh, i forgot to ask you about cvs access ...

<edsu> ... re: antoine's email (if you remember it?)

[adjourned]

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