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Agenda for 14 July 2003 TAG teleconference

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Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of business (Boston time) Thursday of this week.

Homework

1. 8 July 2003 draft of "The use of Metadata in URIs"
2. 9 July 2003 draft of Client handling of MIME headers
3. Text sent by David Orchard about extensibility
4. Threads on visibility of Web Services issue

1. Administrative (15min)

1. Roll call. Likely regrets: NW.
2. Accept corrected minutes of 30 Jun teleconference?
3. Accept minutes of 7 Jul teleconference?
4. Accept this agenda?
5. Accept draft summary of TAG activity
6. Next meeting: 21-23 July ftf meeting
7. Face-to-face meeting draft agenda.

2. Technical (75 mins)

2.1 Findings (25 mins)

See also: findings.

Next steps on these findings:

• contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of Client handling of MIME headers
  1. Action CL, NW 2003/06/30: Read the draft finding by 7 July. NW Done
  2. Completed action IJ 2003/07/07: Produce a new draft of the finding on MIME headers that takes into account comments from Rob Lanphier, TBL, NW, SW (editorial), and above resolution.
  3. Completed action IJ 2003/07/07: Follow up with SYMM IG saying we'll take into account input and produce new draft of this finding.
  4. Comments from Roy on charset param
• 9 July 2003 draft of URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST
  • whenToUseGet-7
    • Completed action IJ 2003/06/23: Incorporate a sentence about scope based on LM comments.
    • Completed action IJ 2003/07/07: Produce new draft of finding with (1) change based on LM comment, (2) text from DO/NM (3) don't address PUT in this finding, but add comment about new issue putMediaType-38 (second point in summary of comments).
    • Subsumed action DO 2003/07/07: Send text that DO and Noah M. can agree to to tag@w3.org. (DO should verify 9 July text)
• metadataInURI-31: 8 July 2003 draft of "The use of Metadata in URIs"
  • Completed action SW 2003/07/07: Create new draft based on input today and send to www-tag.
    
  • Action DO 2003/07/07: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants to peek inside the URI.
  • See also TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI schemes instead of headers
• xmlIDSemantics-32:
  1. Chris Lilley draft finding.
  2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new input from reviewers. 7 July Deadline.
• contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation.
• Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn TB apple story into a finding.

2.2 New issues? (30 mins)

1. Visibility of Web Services, raised by Mark Baker
2. Character model conformance, raised by TBL
3. Meaning of URIs in RDF documents, raised by TBL

2.3 Architecture document (20 mins)

27 June 2003 Working Draft of Arch Doc published.

1. Discussion of text sent by David Orchard about extensibility.
2. Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 5. Section 5 is expected to be short.
3. Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of "Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF.
4. Action SW 2003/07/07: Try to get TimBL to sign off on Paul's text. If SW able to reach TBL, SW/TBL send to AC as co-chairs. If not, have IJ send on behalf of TAG.

2.4 Issues with action items

The TAG does not expect to discuss these.

• uriMediaType-9
  • IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft (see email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close this issue?
  • Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?]
• HTTPSubstrate-16
  • Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended to be excluded from RFC 3205
  • See message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services.
• xlinkScope-23
  • See draft, and SW message to CG chairs.
  • Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking for an update on xlinkScope-23.
• binaryXML-30
  • Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on adding to survey.
  • Next steps to finding? See summary from Chris.
• xmlFunctions-34
  • Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to XML Core work. See email from TimBL capturing some of the issues.
• siteData-36
  • Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36

2.5 Issues the TAG intends to discuss at face-to-face meeting

Identifiers

• URIEquivalence-15
  • SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where Tim Bray text has been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this issue to pending state.
• IRIEverywhere-27
  • Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of IRIs.
  • Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications that handle IRIs are inconsistent. TBL draft not yet available on www-tag.
  • See TB'sproposed step forward on IRI 27.

Qnames, fragments, and media types

• rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
  • Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema desideratum (RQ-23).
• fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML.
  1. Connection to content negotiation?
  2. Connection to opacity of URIs?
  3. No actions associated / no owner.
• abstractComponentRefs-37
  • See issue description from David Orchard. Next steps?
  • Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask them for their analysis.
• putMediaType-38

RDDL, namespace documents

• namespaceDocument-8
  • Action TB 2003/04/07: Prepare RDDL Note. Include in status section that there is TAG consensus that RDDL is a suitable format for representations of an XML namespace. Clean up messy section 4 of RDDL draft and investigate and publish a canonical mapping to RDF. See TB's 1 June version.
  • Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue, pointing to the RDDL Note. See comments from Paul regarding TB theses.
  • Refer to draft TAG opinion from Tim Brayon the use of URNs for namespace names.
    • RF: Folks assume that because the specs say so, URNs will be persisitent. But persistence is a function of institutional commitment and frequency of use.

Other actions

• RDFinXHTML-35
• mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
• errorHandling-20
  • Action CL 2003/02/06: Write a draft finding on the topic of (1) early/late detection of errors (2) late/early binding (3) robustness (4) definition of errors (5) recovery once error has been signaled. Due first week of March.

3. Other actions

• Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. IJ and PLH making substantial progress on this; hope to have something to show in May.