Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference

27 Jul 2010


See also: IRC log


Ashok Malhotra, Oracle Corp.
Bob Freund, Hitachi, Ltd.
Doug Davis, IBM
Gilbert Pilz, Oracle Corp.
Mark Little, Red Hat
Ram Jeyaraman, Microsoft Corp.
Tom Rutt, Fujitsu, Ltd.
Vikas Varma, Software AG
Alessio Soldano, Red Hat
Asir Vedamuthu, Microsoft Corp.
Bob Natale, MITRE Corp.
David Snelling, Fujitsu, Ltd.
Fred Maciel, Hitachi, Ltd.
Jeff Mischkinsky, Oracle Corp.
Katy Warr, IBM
Li Li, Avaya Communications
Martin Chapman, Oracle Corp.
Nathan Burkhart, Microsoft Corp.
Orit Levin, Microsoft Corp.
Paul Fremantle, WSO2
Paul Nolan, IBM
Prasad Yendluri, Software AG
Sreedhara Narayanaswamy, CA
Wu Chou, Avaya Communications
Yves Lafon, W3C/ERCIM
Wu Chou, Avaya Communications
Bob Freund, Hitachi, Ltd.
Ashok Malhotra, Oracle Corp.


<trackbot> Date: 27 July 2010

<scribe> scribe: amalhotr

Agenda bashing

<dug> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9703

Ram: Asks about 9703
... Antoine Mensch was asking about 9703
... perhaps we did not communicate our response to him

Bob: Decided on May f2f
... ACTION: Gil to r2espond ...

Gil: I will respond to him

<dug> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/05/2010-05-12.html#item13

Bob: Reasoning ... we believe complexity will blow up
... All others agreed to our disposition or have not responded

No other changes to agenda

<Bob_> last minutes at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/06/2010-06-29.html

Minutes of June 29

at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/06/2010-06-29.html

Approved w/o objection

Schedule for primer and migration guide

MEX - Katy Eventing - Gil & Wu Frag - Doug

Bob: We are going on hiatus for a while please think about this

f2f meeting

Face to Face meeting in Lyon 1st week of November 1-6

Bob: During the TPAC
... many there in any case
... shd we retain our slot on TPAC program

Ram: Seems like a good idea ... we can check on features at risk

Doug: Use it as interop event?

Ram: No, just discuss features which various vendors are going to implemnt

Doug: When are you thinking abt interop event
... I may not be able to go to France
... I suggest we postpone f2f until we can do interop testing
... do we need to coordinate with any other groups

Bob: I don't think we need to coordinate with any other groups
... Don't have implementation schedules yet

TomRutt: Can we have a short mtg where others can attend by phone

Ram: I may be there

Bob: Martin and Katy may be able to attend

TomRutt: How abt a half-day/morning meeting?

Bob: We may not have any serious issues ... just tests
... I'm inclined to tell the W3C to release the rooms at TPAC
... we could have a f2f/testing event later
... I will release the rooms

LCWD Comments (New)

<scribe> postponed

Second Last call WG publication Sept 10 last comment date?

<dug> Latest Enum: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/edcopies/wsenum.html

Bob: Let us accept issues we have resolved and close them
... can we close all resolved issues?

No objection

Bob: We can go on hiatus and publish LCWD
... Any objection to publishing a seconf last call?

No objection

Bob: I suggest we have last call till Sept 10

Doug: We could work on scenario docs ... could help flush out bugs

Ram: many people in Europe are on vacation ... they want last call till late Sept

TomRutt: How about meetings every 2 weeks?

Doug: How abt next mtg Aug 17 and then meet weekly to discuss scenario docs.

Bob: Lets have next mtg Aug 17
... How about Last call till Sept 17?
... After Aug 17 we can start filling in scenario docs
... would be good to have some to look at

Doug: IBM will do some MEX scenarios

Gil: We can do eventing

Doug: Ram could you do Enum?

Ram: Yes, but no timeline yet

Doug: Involve WSTF in our testing?
... they can do regression test and create matrix

TomRutt: How do we use WSTF?

Doug: They would help the process not be a participant

Ram: Not clear if MSFT will join WSTF

Gil: WSTF may result in a net savings of effort
... they will provide some infrastructure

Bob: Has MSFT rejected membership in WSFT?

Ram: Many different angles

<dug> non-wstf members can still participate

Ram: whether MSFT joins WSTF goes beyond this WG.

Doug: An WSTF member can add yr endpoint but you willnot be able to see the results ... the private WSTF stuff

Ram: Discusses WSTF pros and cons

Bob: Is there a WSTF methodology that we could replicate on W3C?

Doug: There is no rocket science

Bob: This could be useful for HTML testing ...
... Ram, you could mention it to Paul ... may solve some of his problems

Implementation plans update will plans be known for next meeting?

<dug> wsdd

<dug> wsdd tc in oasis

Ram: WSDD WG wants to know/share testing plans ... coverage

Bob: Our plans are all public
... can we shoot for Sept 13, IBM, Oracle ...
... Agenda for Sept 13 will be implementation plans

<dug> http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-resource-transfer/

Ram: Is it under the 'obsolete' category?

Bob: Webmaster said he would take care of it
... AOB?
... Adjourned

Summary of Action Items

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