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Minutes of 25 Nov 2002 TAG teleconference

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1. Administrative

1. Roll call: TBL, SW, DO, PC, IJ, DC, RF, NW, CL. On IRC: TB
2. Accepted 11 Nov minutes
3. Agreed to publish 18 Nov minutes but not yet accepted.
4. Accepted this agenda
5. Next meeting: 2 Dec 2002

1.1 Meeting planning

• Next TAG ftf: 6-7 Feb 2003 in Irvine, CA (USA)

2. Technical (75min)

The TAG reviewed action items but didn't have any substantive technical discussion since people are still catching up from being on the road.

New agenda items for next meeting:

1. SOAP's prohibiting use of XML internal subset from Paul Grosso.

2.1 Priority issues

1. xlinkScope-23 (5 minutes)
   1. Action SW 2002/11/18: Organize a special-interest teleconf for discussion of this issue on linking.

      SW: Progress, but please continue.

2. Status of URIEquivalence-15, IRIEverywhere-27. Relation to Character Model of the Web (chapter 4)? See text from TimBL on URI canonicalization and email from Martin in particular. See more comments from Martin.
   1. CL 2002/11/18: Write up finding for IRIEverywhere-27 (from TB and TBL, a/b/c), to include MD's text.
   2. TB 2002/11/18: Write a finding for URIEquivalence-15 on IRI relation to URI, different levels of equivalence. Done by TBL?

      TB: I like TBL's document but need to throw in some examples.

   3. Martin 2002/11/18: Write up text about IRIEverywhere-27 for spec writers to include in their spec.
3. namespaceDocument-8
   1. Action TB 2002/11/18: Solicit proposals for what a namespace doc should look like for the particular case of a namespace document that refers to a DTD and a style sheet. TB will collate the responses. TB's solicitation should ask submitters for their own pros and cons. (Done)
   2. Action NW 2002/11/18: Take a stab at indicating pros and cons for the various designs.
4. rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
   1. The Schema WG is making progress; they will get back to us when they're done. See XML Schema thread on this topic.

      DO: This is their issue 120; we should just wait for them to address it.

   2. Action IJ: 2002/11/25: Update rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 to indicate waiting on WSDL WG.
5. uriMediaType-9:
   • Action DC 2002/08/30: Write a draft Internet Draft based on this finding (Deadline 2 Dec).

     DC: Mark Baker is making good progress on this. Please update deadline to 2 Dec.

6. Status of discussions with WSA WG about SOAP/WSDL/GET/Query strings?
   • DO 2002/06/24: Contact WSDL WG about this issue (bindings, query strings and schemas) to ensure that it's on their radar. See discussions from 9 Sep TAG teleconf.

     DO: Still on the WSDL WG's issues list. My view on outcome is that in the next few months they'll take a look at this issue.

     Action IJ: Remove this from next agenda, make sure that issues list whenToUseGet-7 tracks this open state.

2.2 Findings in progress, architecture document

See also: findings.

1. Findings in progress:
   1. deepLinking-25
      1. TB 2002/09/09: Revise "Deep Linking" in light of 9 Sep minutes. Status of finding?

         TB: No progress, but I'll get to before end-of-year. Joseph Reagle made excellent editorial suggestions which I plan to adopt. He included a building analogy which probably works better (than the watermelon analogy).

         DC: Yes, building analogy.

2. 7 Nov 2002 Arch Doc
   1. Action CL 2002/11/18: Redraft section 3 based on resolutions of 18 Nov 2002 ftf meeting.
   2. Action DC 2002/11/04: Review "Meaning" to see if there's any part of self-describing Web for the arch doc.
   3. Action IJ 2002/11/18: Send notes to TAG with comments on 'Guidelines for the Use of XML within IETF Protocols'. (Done).

      IJ: I heard back from Larry. I don't expect adoption of my suggestions 1 and 2.