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Agenda of 02 April 2009 TAG teleconference

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1. Convene
   • Chair: Noah, Scribe: Larry (unconfirmed)
   • Roll call -- Regrets: none
   • Note future regrets: Raman (April 9, 16, 23) Henry (April 9) Tim (April 23rd)
   • Agenda Review - this agenda
   • Next Telcon: Propose 9 April 2009; Chair: Noah; Scribe: Jonathan
   • Future scribes: Jonathan > Dan > Ashok > Larry
2. Approval of Minutes from previous telcons and meetings
   • Face to face meeting 3-5 March 2009
     • Henry warns (member-only) of a questionable edit in transcript for 4 March
   • 26th March 2009
3. Administrative items (Brief)
   • Reminder that chair has sent a summary of materials relating to TAG priorities and a request that the next round of discussions of goals and priorities be done using email, starting now.
4. Planning TAG Autumn F2F
   • Background:
     • TAG has tentatively agreed to meet half-days on Monday and Friday of Santa Clara TPAC in November if W3C decides to hold that meeting.
     • Sentiment on 26 March call was that we need a more proper 2-3 day Autumn meeting in addition to TPAC.
     • Some members have requested we decide soon.
     • Chair suggests late Sept or October, Silicon Valley — host TBD (on the theory that the June meeting is East Coast)
5. webApplicationState-60 (ISSUE-60): Web Application State Management
   • Background:
     • Request from T.V. Raman that we publish this as a W3C Working Draft.
     • Raman then prepared, and Henry further refined to account for W3C publication rules the following for consideration as content of the working draft: Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL parameters (Version: 15 April 2009 -- not clear why this is dated in the future!)
   • Goals:
     • Decide to publish a W3C working draft.
6. UniformAccessToMetadata-62 (ISSUE-62): Metadata
   • Discussion will be led by: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed)
   • Background:
     • Pursuant to ACTION-227, Jonathan Rees prepared a survey of issues relating to metadata.
     • See email thread starting with Jonathan's announcement of the survey document.
   • Goals:
     • Review Jonathan's draft.
     • Decide what, if anything, the TAG should do in the area of metadata.
7. CURIEs in RDFa, @rel, and the HTML profile attribute
   • Discussion will be led by: John Kemp (confirmed)
   • Background:
     • The TAG been asked to help resolve concerns with the use of CURIEs in RDFa and with the HTML profile attribute.
     • See also the very long email thread that began with an email message from Mark Nottingham to www-tag titled "Using XMLNS in link/@rel", which in turn led to a message to the public-html list from Julian Reschke titled @rel syntax in RDFa (relevant to ISSUE-60 discussion), was: Using XMLNS in link/@rel. The long thread starts with that; early messages in the thread were not cross-posted to www-tag, but later ones were (starting with this one).
     • ACTION-240 on John Kemp: read thread on RDFa, CURIEs and profile and summarize http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0295.html -- due 2009-03-21 -- OPEN.
   • Goals:
     • Review www-tag discussion of this issue
     • Decide what steps, if any, the TAG wants to take to help the community resolve these concerns.
8. contentTypeOverride-24 (ISSUE-24):
   • Discussion will be led by: Dan Connolly (confirmed)
   • Background:
     • Dan Connolly suggests that we discuss the draft Content-Type Processing Model, by Ian Hickson and Adam Barth; the draft proposes interoperable rules for Content-type "sniffing" in browsers. Note that the draft acknowledges at one point that it is in "... willful violation of the HTTP specification. [RFC2616]".
     • ACTION-233 on Larry Masinter: Report back from IETF/HTML liaison meeting in March regarding MIME type override - due 2009-03-11 - open
     • ACTION-236 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule discussion of the stress on media types imposed by client-side synthesised[sic] content - due 2009-04-09 - open
   • Goals:
     • Update TAG on IETF liaison wrt the Content-Type Processing Model draft.
     • Solicit TAG reviews.
9. HTML
   • Background:
     • Discussion on 26 March telcon of HTML progress at W3C Advisory Committee meeting. link to be supplied when minutes are available
     • Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from the HTML 5 draft. (see email from Dan announcing the draft).
     • ACTION-253 on Dan Connolly: Brief the TAG on progress on \"web addresses in HTML\" draft - due 2009-04-01 - open (ISSUE-27)
     • This seems also to relate to ACTION-188 on Dan Connolly: Investigate the URL/IRI/Larry Masinter possible resolution of the URL/HTML5 issue. - due 2009-03-17 - closed.
   • Goals:
     • Discuss Web addresses in HTML 5.
10. XMLVersioning-41 (ISSUE-41).
    • Background:
      • The TAG had earlier decided not to actively pursue development of the finding on versioning.
      • HTML working group action 108 requests that the TAG consider HTML when working on versioning
      • Thread starting with John Kemp email on updating AWWW good practice note on versioning
      • At 23 March 2009 AC meeting there was at least an informal sense that the AC wanted the TAG to help with the extensibility issue, primarily in the context of HTML. Tim took an action (from the AC, not the TAG) to see that the TAG takes a look at this.
      • Chair's message summarizing status of Versioning work at the TAG (sent 24 March 2009) includes the following:
        • The drafts that Dave Orchard spent several years helping us to write will be published as W3C notes, with an effort made to incorporate the formalism
        • Larry is going to drive a review on how the TAG might be helpful to the HTML community with respect to extensibility and versioning
        • John and Noah will explore revisions to the AWWW, which currently advises "A data format specification SHOULD provide for version information." Noah wrote a TAG blog entry awhile ago questioning the wisdom of that advice.
        • Many TAG members seem to feel that Jonathan's work on formalism is promising, but except for encouraging Dave Orchard to include it in the W3C, we at this time have no formal activity scheduled to follow up on the formalism.
      • The following TAG actions are open or pending under ISSUE-41:
        • ACTION-183 (David Orchard) Incorporate formalism into versioning compatibility strategies. Due 3 March 2009. Pending review Jonathan reports that he and David have decided not to incorporate the formalism after all, so we need to consider fate of the formalism work.
        • ACTION-229 (Noah Mendelsohn) Noah to respond to John Kemp proposal of Feb 17 on versioning. Due 14 April 2009. Pending review
        • ACTION-241 (Larry Masinter) Larry Masinter to Review TAG versioning situation and report back to TAG and HTML - due 2009-03-12, open
    • Goals:
      • Decide whether, given the above background, we want to again work actively on versioning, and if so, with what specific goals.
      • Review status of TAG actions. At very least, establish follow up on thread started with John Kemp's 17 Feb. message, and then close ACTION-229.
11. Pending Review Items:
    • Pending review actions in Tracker
12. Overdue Action Items:
    • Overdue actions in Tracker
13. Any other business