Socialwg/push-name
This page is left for historical purposes.
Prior to adopting it in the W3C Social Web Working Group, the WebSub spec was known as PubSubHubbub. During the November 2016 face-to-face meeting, the group brainstormed some new ideas for a name for the spec, and finally published an updated Working Draft of WebSub under its new name.
Prior to the face-to-face meeting, we solicited some input on Twitter:
https://aaronparecki.com/2016/11/01/6/pubsubhubbub (twitter copy)
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What are we going to call pubsubhubbub going forward?
(What to name this wikipage is irrelevant and not up for discussion.)
Brainstorming
This is the brainstorming list of alternative names for PubSubHubbub, from a Google Doc that we live-edited in the 2016-11-17 face-to-face meeting.
WebSub *** WebFollow WebSubscribe Hublish Sublish Weblish Caster HubCaster WebCaster SubWebCast HubHub InternetSubPro GoSub iSub OSub OSubStatus SubStandard PubStandard TheStandard DefinitelyNotPubSubHubbub Evan Prodromou’s PubSubHubbubbub Hubble HubNet The Spec formerly known as PubSubHubub HobNob HubNub BubHubSubPub RubNubSubPub DubDubDubSub (WWWSub) DubSub DubDub YetAnotherPubSub (YAPS) YubNub YetAnotherPubSubHubBub (YAPSHB) WebPro2000 StalkerSpec README.TXT AS A SERVICE InternetFriendFinder GNU Pub/Sub/Hub PleaseReadMyUpdatesPlease follow-metadata.csv iNeedAttention Hubscribe WeSub Webscribe HTTPSub BeerPub PubStep Vaporwave MicroHub MicroSub WebScaleHub Encrypted Media Extensions Sub MESub WazzzzzSub NeXTSub WasHubi NotificationHub Notifhub nh;df; (no Hub didn’t follow) NoHub SoHub PumpHub InstantMessenger ActivityHub ActiveHub Rubadubdub (3 men in a Hub) InstantWebNotification AllHandsOnDeck SemHub LubDubHub Sublime JSub HubStep Internet Push Notification (IPN) World Wide Notifications World Wrestling Notifications PubSubDubstep SUP (Simple Update Protocol) WHAT-SUP GitHub GitSub SubSlab GrubHub Rub-a-dub-hub HubHub Hodor Micropub EvanPub (the free version of EvanPro? (that’s OpenEvan until it gets forked, then it is LibreEvan)) PuSHPuSHButDifferent Pubsubhubbub2.0 SubWay (always fresh) MakingSubscriptionsGreatAgain (too soon?) TOO SOON LinkedDataSubscriptions WebizingPuSH PubSubHullabloo Hubby IrishPub VegiHub PubIsland2 HubDuty HubDoobie GetAHub Subtastic SuberHubonic HubGear777 PubSubulater SoftHub HardHub HardyHarHarHub Mr. Hubato HubsConsideredHarmful SUuuBer! SlapASub HubbaHubba PSNPuSH (PubSub Not PubSubHubbub) BikeShedHub BikeSubHubDub
Candidates
WebFollow
Pros
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Cons
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For
- aaronpk
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Against
- tonyg -- it connotes too much (following = twitter? facebook?)
- wilkie -- it doesn't actually implement "following"
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WebSub
Pros
- ...
Cons
- ...
For
- ...
Against
- aaronpk - might as well call it WebSubscribe and people will just shorten it to WebSub anyway
- tonyg (aaronpk makes a convincing argument)
WebSubscribe
Pros
- ...
Cons
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For
- aaronpk
- tonyg (if it has to be one of these three)
- wilkie (if it has to be one of these three)
- ...
... please add others ..
Rejected 2016-11-17
Rejected at the Socialwg/2016-11-17 f2f meeting
PubSubHubbub
Pros
- Existing name, so easily recognizable
- Distinctive name
- ...
Cons
- Difficult to type and pronounce, especially for non-native English speakers
- ...
For
- ...
Against
- rhiaro
- tantek
- ...
PubSub
Pros
- Recognizable reference to PubSubHubbub
- As "W3 PubSub" or "W3C PubSub" both (a) gives good google results and (b) does what it says on the tin
- ...
Cons
- Already a generic term [1]
- "pub sub is kinda redundant. if you're subbing someone is obviously pubbing" - TheGillies
- ...
For
- tonyg
- eprodrom
- julien
- tantek
Against
- aaronpk
- rhiaro
- wilkie
- ...
PubHub
Pros
- Hub is emphasized
- Still reminiscent of PubSubHubbub
Cons
- Where did Sub go?
- Still has the non-native English pronunciation problem with -bH-
For
- ...
Against
- ...
HubSub
Pros
- Hub is emphasized
- Still reminiscent of PubSubHubbub
Cons
- ...
For
- rhiaro
- cwebber2
Against
- aaronpk - it became clear after hearing people say it that it was difficult to hear
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WebPub
Pros
- ...
Cons
- Emphasises the "Pub" side, while it's the "Sub" side that's the more important part of the system
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For
- TheGillies
- ...
Against
- ...
HubCast
Pros
- Emphasizes the idea of the "hub" which is the intermediary between publishers and subscribers
- Is unique in context of a technology name
- ...
Cons
- Shares little in common with the original name, PubSubHubbub
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For
- aaronpk
- rhiaro
- cwebber
- ...
Against
- ...
PushCast
Pros
- New name but still recognizable relation to PubSubHubbub
- ...
Cons
- People sometimes associate Push with going all the way to the user.
- sounds too close to old product PointCast
- nothing to do with broadcasting
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For
- aaronpk
- ...
Against
- tantek
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FeedCast
Pros
- Descriptive as to what it's for
- ...
Cons
- While the spec originated with sending updates about feeds, it is not limited to feeds, and could work just as well for receiving updated about single documents. This name potentially would continue to limit the idea to working with feeds.
- No relation to previous name PubSubHubbub
- nothing to do with broadcasting
- ...
For
- aaronpk
- @malcolmblaney
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Against
- tonyg
- rhiaro
- ...
Hubbub
Pros
- Fun
- Retains reference to original name
- Semantically appropriate
Cons
- Silly?
For
- rhiaro
- wilkie
Against
WebHub
It applies to the *web*, and it's primary feature is that it adds a *hub*
Pros
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Cons
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For
- tantek
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Abstain
- Benjamin Roberts (talk) (We are bikeshedding and I no longer care)
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