HCLSIG/LODD/Meetings/2009-12-09 Conference Call
- Date of Call: Wednesday December 9, 2009
- Time of Call: 11:00am Eastern Daylight Time (EDT), 16:00 British Summer Time (BST), 17:00 Central European Time (CET)
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- Participant Access Code: 4257 ("HCLS").
- IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page for details, or see Web IRC)
- Duration: ~1h
- Convener: Susie
- Open data follow up - all
- Data update - Anja, Jun, Matthias, Egon
- ESWC Paper - Matthias, Jun
- TCM special issue - Matthias, Jun
- Bio-Ontologies SIG - Susie
Attendees: Egon, Anja, Bosse, Elgar, Jun, Kei, Matthias, Scott
- egonw is making notes
<egonw> start: open data follow up
<egonw> summary of past meeting: various licenses
<egonw> take home message: recommended: if licensing is not 100% clear, email to upstream copyright owner about details
<egonw> making data available raises awareness with both data provider and users
<egonw> current efforts seem OK, but we could still contact upstream data providers
<egonw> CC is available for general questions
<egonw> question 1: should we contact data providers?
<egonw> susie: contacting data providers is probably good
<egonw> anja: licenses also important for users
<egonw> question: commercial use? two interpretations...
<egonw> 1. for commercial redistribution; 2. for commercial services
<egonw> susie: should stay in touch with data providers about what we want to do, and if they are happy about that, and how that is reflected in the license
<egonw> susie: wonders about to what extend we can relicense and/or sublicense
<jun> bosse: shall we go back and influence the data providers to be more open with their data?
<egonw> susie: when we contact data providers we can talk about licensing issues when integrating data and making it open
<egonw> susie: where from now?
<egonw> good idea to talk to data providers
<egonw> what about data sources already available?
<egonw> like drugbank, since already being published about
<egonw> done deal?
<egonw> anja?: talk to bio2rdf, as they do redistribution a lot too
<egonw> michel dumontier is involved in bio2rdf (since when?)
<egonw> bio2rdf is more oriented in bioinformatics
<egonw> our work more on drugs
<egonw> (that was susie)
<egonw> bosse?: also for older data set contact providers
<egonw> if we do not have any license right now, then we should at least say the original license applies
- egonw will contact Peter Ansell about Bio2RDF data licenses
<egonw> for current data sets, licenses are listed on the wiki page
- egonw will also ask Peter about how to have contact with the data providers
<egonw> susie wants to be careful not to frighten data providers
<egonw> who is going to look at which data sets?
<egonw> anja: suggest who people who converted data into RDF should look into that...
<egonw> susie will ping Oktie
<egonw> kei will look at TCM
<egonw> jun: original licenses should be linked to too
<egonw> how about the patient data license? can we make a suggestion there based on the previous conference call?
<egonw> comment: data providers might not want to have their data linked
<egonw> suggested to start with just querying a single database
<egonw> carefully approaching data providers is said to be good practice
<egonw> II: Data Update
<egonw> slide 17
<egonw> linking TCM to STITCH
<egonw> susie: is there a linked version of biopax?
<egonw> can biopax ontology be used for, for example, stitch
<egonw> BioPAX ontology license is LGPL
<egonw> matthias: one problem seems to be the lack of conformation to the linked data concepts
<egonw> matthias: another issue is the imprecise semantics in the ontology here and there
<egonw> III: ESWC paper update
<bbalsa> Link to Linked Life Data information, http://www.linkedlifedata.com/
<egonw> matthias: focusing in ESWC abstract + main text
<egonw> focus on traditional medicine
<egonw> outline is in Google Docs
<egonw> discusses ontology view/browse widget
<egonw> people interested co-authoring on paper later next year should email Matthias to be added as a co-author
<egonw> next call: 6th january
<egonw> matthias: december 22 is deadline
<egonw> bio-ontology moved to next call
<egonw> tcm special issue likewise
<egonw> happy holidays to all