Minutes, 4 June 2014 telcon

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                 WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

04 Jun 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/06/04-webfonts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Vlad, [Google], ChrisL

   Regrets
   Chair
          SV_MEETING_CHAIR

   Scribe
          ChrisL

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]normalize size
         2. [5]f2f
         3. [6]test plan
         4. [7]rfc for brotli
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 04 June 2014

   trackbot, start telcon

   <trackbot> Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

   <trackbot> Date: 04 June 2014

   <scribe> scribenick: ChrisL

   Vlad: we have confirmation of hosting from atypi
   ... one issue remaining on woff2
   ... any time constrainst on fpwd to lc?

   ChrisL: we can move to LC as soon as we have no issues

   Vlad: so we should plan for conformance testing
   ... fpwd triggers patent exclusion opportunity

   ChrisL: (explains exclusion periods and patent disclosure)

   Vlad: patent from monotype is unlimited, irrevocable and
   broader in scope than woff or that w3c requires

   woff2 exclusion is until until 05 October 2014

normalize size

   Vlad: wanted to remove the suggested buffer size. raph has an
   opinion. raph will make it more definitive

   kuettel: will talk to raph about this

f2f

   Vlad: Tues 15 Sept, Barcelona

test plan

   ChrisL: (explains usual testing methos with defined testable
   assertions)

   <scribe> ACTION: vlad to mark up woff2 testable assertions
   [recorded in
   [9]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-131 - Mark up woff2 testable
   assertions [on Vladimir Levantovsky - due 2014-06-11].

   action-131?

   <trackbot> action-131 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Mark up woff2
   testable assertions -- due 2014-06-11 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/131

     [10] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/131

   action-130?

   <trackbot> action-130 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to - contact the
   atypi organizers and ask if they can host the meeting for ~12
   people on sep. 16 -- due 2014-06-04 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [11]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/130

     [11] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/130

   close action-130

   <trackbot> Closed action-130.

   ChrisL: finding testable assertions helps make a crisp spec and
   gets rid of wooly, unclear phrases

   Vlad: its easier when there is soething concrete to review

   kuettel: agreed
   ... how far into testing would we be by the f2f

   Vlad: finalized test plan
   ... then deciding who develops which test

   kuettel: and good for us all to be there in person

   Vlad: in woff1 there was a lot of work, Tal Leming was super
   helpful doing that. May be able to reuse some of that here

   kuettel: we are testing woff2 in production. In chrome 36 10%
   of fonts are in woff2 now

   Vlad: we are super efficient and emptied the agenda

   kuettel: jkew said that he was excited to start implementing
   woff2 in firefox
   ... data from real world usage would be very helpful here

   Vlad: leonardo at mpeg asked if w3c is doing new font
   compression, why not also use it in mpeg
   ... freindly enquiry, would give lots of technical review on
   brotli

   kuettel: did reach out internally, compression team was happy
   with progress and wanted to continue as is with w3c and ietf,
   then look at iso afterwards

   Vlad: iso standardization has benefit of technical review and
   also a solid status wrt an IETF RFC

   action-126?

   <trackbot> action-126 -- David Kuettel to Check publication of
   security review -- due 2014-01-15 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/126

     [12] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/126

   kuettel: kenji gave an update on that a while ago. went through
   a lot of fuzz testing, fixed the issues

   ChrisL: its more to show the work has been done

rfc for brotli

   Vlad: has internet draft been published?

   [13]http://www.spinics.net/lists/ietf-ann/msg85903.html

     [13] http://www.spinics.net/lists/ietf-ann/msg85903.html

   draft -01

   [14]http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-alakuijala-brotli-01

     [14] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-alakuijala-brotli-01

   dated May 16

   ChrisL: suspect woff2 links to -00 not -01?

   Vlad: no, its already 01
   ... link text needs updating
   ... it needs to move to informational RFC, not a draft which is
   only 6 months lifespan

   kuettel: having this as an RFC would be a good goal for the f2f
   meeting

   ChrisL: sounds like a great goal

   <scribe> ACTION: kuettel to track progress of brotli ID to RFC
   [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action02
   ]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-132 - Track progress of brotli id to
   rfc [on David Kuettel - due 2014-06-11].

   action-132?

   <trackbot> action-132 -- David Kuettel to Track progress of
   brotli id to rfc -- due 2014-06-11 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/132

     [16] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/132

   updated due date to 2014-09-10

   Vlad: next meeting depends on the size issue
   ... so postpone to week after, depending on response

   kuettel: time frees up after Google.io

   (adjourned)

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: kuettel to track progress of brotli ID to RFC
   [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action02
   ]
   [NEW] ACTION: vlad to mark up woff2 testable assertions
   [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action01
   ]

   [End of minutes]
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 Chris                          mailto:chris@w3.org

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