- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:57:46 -0400
- To: Peter Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
- CC: RDF WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <5214F18A.60307@w3.org>
On 08/21/2013 12:32 PM, Peter Patel-Schneider wrote:
> Minutes may be delayed - Internal Server Error at
> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-21
>
Sorry, as I explained on IRC, but I guess you didn't see:
<sandro> pfps, there's a bug where some scribe errors produce that
instead of a proper error message.
<sandro> this line
<sandro> 15:02:14 Topic: Administrivia
<sandro> should have been
<sandro> 15:02:14 <pfps> Topic: Administrivia
<sandro> I just fixed it by manually going to
https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-21?edit=1
-- Sandro
>
> Just in case something really bad has happened, here is my grab of the
> raw IRC log.
>
> peter
>
>
> #rdf-wg
> === public.cloak is your displayed hostname now
> =-= User mode for pfps is now +i
> -->| YOU (pfps) have joined #rdf-wg
> -->| AndyS (~afs@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> -->| gkellogg (~gregg@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> -->| AZ (~AZ@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> davidwood Zakim, this will be RDF
> -->| Zakim (zakim@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> -->| RRSAgent (rrsagent@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> RRSAgent logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/08/21-rdf-wg-irc
> davidwood Zakim, this will be RDF
> Zakim ok, davidwood, I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM already started
> davidwood Chair: David Wood
> Zakim + +1.408.992.aaaa
> Zakim - +1.408.992.aaaa
> Zakim + +1.408.992.aaaa
> davidwood Agenda:
> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.08.21#Admin
> pfps zakim, aaaa is me
> Zakim +pfps; got it
> Zakim + +081165aabb
> davidwood Zakim, who is here
> Zakim davidwood, you need to end that query with '?'
> Zakim +OpenLink_Software
> davidwood Zakim, who is here?
> Zakim On the phone I see bhyland1, pfps, +081165aabb,
> OpenLink_Software
> Zakim On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, AZ, gkellogg, AndyS, pfps,
> TallTed, ivan, manu, gavinc, davidwood, trackbot, yvesr, sandro, ericP
> Zakim - +081165aabb
> TallTed Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
> Zakim +TallTed; got it
> TallTed Zakim, mute me
> ivan zakim, dial ivan-voip
> Zakim TallTed should now be muted
> davidwood Zakim, bhyland is me
> Zakim ok, ivan; the call is being made
> Zakim +davidwood; got it
> Zakim +Ivan
> pfps zakim, you need to get a life?
> Zakim I don't understand your question, pfps.
> Zakim +Sandro
> ivan zakim, mute me
> Zakim Ivan should now be muted
> Zakim +[IPcaller]
> AndyS zakim, ipcaller is me
> Zakim +AndyS; got it
> Zakim +??P13
> Zakim +??P14
> sandro zakim, drop P13
> Zakim sorry, sandro, I do not see a party named 'P13'
> sandro zakim, drop ??P13
> Zakim ??P13 is being disconnected
> =-= TallTed has changed the topic to “RDF WG --
> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ -- Agenda:
> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.08.21”
> Zakim -??P13
> yvesr Zakim, ??P14 is me
> Zakim +yvesr; got it
> pfps the nuclear option is always the right thing to do
> AndyS in a less than ideal telecon place - I am muted and can
> unmute for specific items.
> Zakim + +081165aacc
> AZ Zakim, aacc is me
> Zakim +AZ; got it
> Zakim + +1.415.686.aadd
> gkellogg zakim, aadd is me
> Zakim +gkellogg; got it
> davidwood Zakim, who is here?
> Zakim On the phone I see davidwood, pfps, TallTed (muted), Ivan
> (muted), Sandro, AndyS, yvesr, AZ, gkellogg
> Zakim On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, AZ, gkellogg, AndyS, pfps,
> TallTed, ivan, manu, gavinc, davidwood, trackbot, yvesr, sandro, ericP
> AndyS there are 3 sets of building works in the road and all
> are using power tools
> TallTed Zakim, unmute me
> Zakim TallTed should no longer be muted
> TallTed Zakim, mute me
> Zakim TallTed should now be muted
> yvesr fighting a massive headache
> pfps i can scribe (in honour of getting IRC access back)
> AndyS yep - a bit risky.
> yvesr sorry!
> pfps scribenick: pfps
> pfps that didn't work
> Zakim +gavinc
> gavinc waves
> -->| markus (~chatzilla@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> =-= markus is now known as lanthaler
> Zakim +Souri
> davidwood PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 07 August
> telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-07
> -->| Souri (~Souri@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> pfps agendum: admin
> AndyS notes he scribed that one
> pfps david: accept minutes from last time
> davidwood RESOLVED to accept the minutes of the 07 August
> telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-07
> pfps david: no objections -> minutes acceptes
> davidwood Review of action items
> davidwood http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/pendingreview
> davidwood http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/open
> AndyS ACTION-282 is done
> gavinc I claim that EricP did ACTION-280
> yvesr did a bit of work on ACTION-196 but still work in progress
> lanthaler my machine just crashed.. will join in a couple of
> minutes
> pfps david: second editor for trig
> pfps andy: I will if it helps
> davidwood CLOSE ACTION-282
> trackbot is closing ACTION-282.
> trackbot Closed ACTION-282.
> davidwood CLOSE ACTION-280
> trackbot is closing ACTION-280.
> trackbot Closed ACTION-280.
> pfps greg: so far 9 conforming Turtle implementation
> AndyS Excellent news on the implementation reports.
> pfps david: primer still in progress
> gkellogg s/greg/gkellogg/
> pfps greg should work, no?
> gkellogg don't thing so; perhaps gregg
> pfps hmmm, zakim is too dumb for its own good
> gkellogg can always clean up later
> pfps david: next meeting *next* week
> yvesr
> AndyS Happy Birthday, David for next week. Install the large
> number package.
> pfps david: I won't be available next week
> pfps sandro: I can chair if needed
> davidwood Request for Review: ITS 2.0
> davidwood
> davidwood See:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0000.html
> davidwood
> pfps agendum: request for review of ITS 2.0
> ivan q+
> Zakim sees ivan on the speaker queue
> pfps that's not the right incantation - what is the right one?
> pfps david: they want some some review from us re converting
> markup into RDF
> AndyS peter --- topic:
> pfps thanks
> pfps topic: request for review
> gavinc Section in question,
> http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#conversion-to-nif
> pfps david: I'm not sure what we would say except "hurray" and
> check to see if they have done anything bad
> ivan I am happy to say hurray
> pfps after for before reading?
> ivan ack ivan
> Zakim unmutes Ivan
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps ivan: I can take a look at the document
> pfps add an action item??
> pfps action: ivan review ITS 2.0 document
> trackbot is creating a new ACTION.
> RRSAgent records action 1
> trackbot 'ivan' is an ambiguous username. Please try a
> different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ivan,
> imikhail).
> davidwood Topic: JSON-LD
> ivan zakim, mute me
> Zakim Ivan should now be muted
> davidwood PROPOSED to publish JSON-LD as CR:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0060.html
> Zakim +EricP
> pfps sandro: we need to agree on exit criteria
> AndyS q+ to ask about testing (minor, clarification)
> Zakim sees AndyS on the speaker queue
> gkellogg q+
> Zakim sees AndyS, gkellogg on the speaker queue
> davidwood ack AndyS
> pfps sandro: the standard criteria should be acceptable, but
> there should be a resolution
> Zakim AndyS, you wanted to ask about testing (minor, clarification)
> Zakim sees gkellogg on the speaker queue
> Zakim +??P20
> lanthaler zakim, ??P20 is me
> Zakim +lanthaler; got it
> =-= lanthaler is now known as markus
> markus zakim, ??P20 is me
> Zakim I already had ??P20 as lanthaler, markus
> pfps andy: for the RDF tests, isomorphism appears to be the
> right standard
> davidwood ack gkellogg
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps gregg: this was discussed yesterday
> pfps gregg: for testing to-RDF isomorphism is OK, but the
> output is n-quads
> gkellogg http://json-ld.org/test-suite/reports/
> pfps andy: so n-quads isomorphism is what to use
> ivan q+
> Zakim sees ivan on the speaker queue
> yvesr hmm dataset isomorphism - that rings a bell
> pfps gregg: here is an EARLy report
> ivan q-
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps gregg: pretty broad conformance over six implementations
> gavinc +q to ask if 3 of those aren't translations of the same
> implementation?
> Zakim sees gavinc on the speaker queue
> davidwood ack gavinc
> Zakim gavinc, you wanted to ask if 3 of those aren't
> translations of the same implementation?
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps gregg: this indicates that CR exit critera have already
> been met, but there are other groups that may be waiting for CR to
> actually to the testing
> pfps gavin: are three of the implementations machine translations?
> markus I think on yesterday's call we agreed on a minimum CR
> duration of 2 weeks
> pfps gregg: no, they are separate, but the Java one is the primary
> gavinc s/Java/Javascript
> AndyS s/java/javascript/
> AndyS
> pfps david: sandro can you craft a proposal for exit criteria?
> davidwood q?
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps gregg: the tests are all via the API
> Zakim -EricP
> pfps sandro: are any of the proposed tests contential
> pfps gregg: to RDF-100 had some discussion yesterday because it
> was generating relative-IRIs
> gavinc +q to ask about dataset tests
> Zakim sees gavinc on the speaker queue
> pfps gregg: we dropped it so that the results are all legal
> generalized RDF
> davidwood ack gavinc
> Zakim gavinc, you wanted to ask about dataset tests
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps gavin: are there tests around datasets that contain more
> than one graph? the bugs I've in seen in are in this area
> Zakim +EricP
> pfps gregg: I don't know - we will be discussing this next week
> on the JSON-LD call
> -->| AZ_ (~AZ@public.cloak) has joined #rdf-wg
> AndyS Don't need test suite to go to CR.
> pfps gavin: how can we approve exit criteria without a full set
> of tests?
> sandro PROPOSED: The Exit Critera for JSON-LD shall be that at
> least two implementations pass each approved test in the test suite.
> We approve the tests as they stands today, but intend to add more. We
> may also make corrections if bugs are found. The test are all on
> JSON-LD-API but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents.
> sandro gregg: we need more tests. we only have only one test on
> error condititions.
> gavinc We DO need more tests. There are no tests for datasets,
> only single named graphs
> markus q+
> Zakim sees markus on the speaker queue
> pfps gregg: more tests are needed, e.g., test variations on
> native types, dataset tests
> pfps gregg: should we approve the current tests?
> pfps sandro: let's approve now and add later
> pfps sandro: there are about two weeks before CR can be
> announced, so the tests should be finalized by then
> ericP of course you never know when a test suite is *really* done
> pfps david: do we need one resolution or two?
> davidwood ack markus
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps sandro: either
> markus The exit criteria I put in the spec is: "Before this
> specification exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent
> implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation
> must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite
> is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an
> implementation report (hosted together with the test suite)."
> pfps markus: are we trying to define the exit criteria
> pfps sandro: yes
> pfps sandro: the exit criteria usually go in the transition
> request, not the document
> Zakim -EricP
> pfps david: let's resolve on the wording from the document
> sandro PROPOSED: (as in spec draft) Before this specification
> exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent
> implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation
> must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite
> is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an
> implementation report (hosted together with the test suite).
> sandro +1
> markus +1
> davidwood +1
> gkellogg +1
> pfps +1
> yvesr +1
> TallTed +1
> AndyS +1
> ivan +1
> AZ_ +1
> |<-- AZ has left irc.w3.org:6665 <http://irc.w3.org:6665> (Ping
> timeout: 180 seconds)
> pfps heavy typing
> gavinc +1
> Souri +1
> pfps zakim, who is talking?
> sandro RESOLVED: (as in spec draft) Before this specification
> exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent
> implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation
> must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite
> is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an
> implementation report (hosted together with the test suite).
> Zakim pfps, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the
> following: davidwood (53%), AndyS (19%), Sandro (15%)
> AndyS muted
> gkellogg JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API
> davidwood PROPOSED: Publish both JSON-LD 1.0 and JSON-LD 1.0
> Processing Algorithms and API as CR.
> ivan +1
> gkellogg +1
> markus +1
> sandro +1
> gavinc +1
> ivan yay
> AndyS +1
> davidwood +1
> pfps sandro: there should be some comment that the JSON-LD
> tests cover both documents
> TallTed +1
> Souri +1
> AZ_ +1
> yvesr +1
> sandro PROPOSED: The test are all on JSON-LD-API but we
> consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents.
> davidwood RESOLVED: Publish both JSON-LD 1.0 and JSON-LD 1.0
> Processing Algorithms and API as CR.
> davidwood PROPOSED: The test are all on JSON-LD-API but we
> consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents.
> sandro gregg: Implementing all the processing algorithms
> effectively tests all the normative requirements of the JSON-LD documents.
> sandro +1
> sandro PROPOSED: The test are all on JSON-LD Processing
> Algorithms, but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents in
> their entirety.
> pfps +1
> sandro +1
> gkellogg +1
> davidwood +1
> markus +1
> gavinc +1
> pfps sandro: are there actual API tests?
> pfps gregg: yes
> sandro gregg: We should be careful that the API tests are in
> the report, since they aren't in the EARL.
> sandro gregg: That part is intended for JS impls, but my (Ruby)
> one doesn't do the API with Promises.
> ivan +1
> Souri +1
> pfps david: I don't see any issues here
> davidwood RESOLVED: The test are all on JSON-LD Processing
> Algorithms, but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents in
> their entirety.
> TallTed +1
> gkellogg Need to make sure IDL tests are included with the test
> manifests and in the EARL report
> yvesr abstains from that one - not sure how much of the
> algorithms document is covered indirectly by these tests
> pfps markus: how long for CR?
> ivan david, I am needed on another phone for some membership
> issue; may I leave?
> pfps sandro: let's just ask for a short time and end whenever
> davidwood ivan, sure
> pfps markus: we were thinking of two weeks and extend if necessary
> ivan sorry about that
> Zakim -Ivan
> pfps sandro: two weeks seems a little short - three weeks might
> be more normal
> pfps sandro: two weeks might raise some flage
> pfps markus: ok
> pfps andy: groups that are waiting for start of CR might want
> longer
> davidwood From
> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#transition-reqs :
> "The Working Group is not required to show that a technical report has
> two independent and interoperable implementations as part of a request
> to the Director to announce a Call for Implementations. However, the
> Working Group should include a report of present and expected
> implementations as part of the request."
> pfps markus: we might send out an informal communication to get
> these people to start
> gavinc "must specify the deadline for comments, which must be
> at least four weeks after publication, and should be longer for
> complex documents."
> pfps david: minimal duration of implementation period is required
> pfps sandro: should be at least three weeks
> davidwood "The announcement must indicate a minimal duration,
> before which the Working Group must not request
> ahttp://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfr
> <http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfr>; this minimal
> duration is designed to allow time for comment."
> davidwood There is no definition of minimal.
> gavinc yep, and the newest draft process document
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/AB/raw-file/default/tr.html does define, and
> that's 4 weeks
> markus gavinc, that's not CR
> pfps david: let's try for three
> gavinc markus nope, since CR is gone
> pfps sandro: resolving on three weeks would be helful
> pfps s/hellful/helpful/
> markus gavinc, oh sorry, didn't realize you pasted a different link
> davidwood PROPOSED: The WG will request a duration of three (3)
> weeks for the JSON-LD implemention period.
> gkellogg +1
> davidwood +1
> yvesr +1
> gavinc +1
> pfps +1 (are you sure that you needed the (3)?)
> markus +1
> TallTed +1
> sandro +1
> davidwood RESOLVED: The WG will request a duration of three (3)
> weeks for the JSON-LD implementation period.
> pfps sandro: we may be able to publish the documents on the day
> that the CR request is approved
> pfps !
> Souri +1
> davidwood Topic: TriG / N-Triples / N-Quads
> pfps topic: lions and tigers and bears
> pfps david: progress in TriG document
> pfps david: please accept Andy's help
> ivan zakim, dial ivan-voip
> Zakim ok, ivan; the call is being made
> Zakim +Ivan
> pfps david: Andy will join Gavin as the second editor of the
> TriG document
> AndyS No problem .. yet. I *love* hg
> AndyS not
> davidwood
> pfps gavin: the end result for TriG is that two things need to
> be added - optional "graph" and {}
> gkellogg q+
> Zakim sees gkellogg on the speaker queue
> pfps gavin: there were a number of other grammars for other things
> ivan zakim, mute me
> Zakim Ivan should now be muted
> davidwood ack gkellogg
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps gregg: allowing a blank node as a graph name was an issue
> - what syntax is allowed - easiest is blank node label
> pfps andy: either labelled or []
> pfps gavin: a bit strange
> pfps andy: yes, a corner case, but graphs can be discovered
> pfps andy: graph name syntax has to be just for a blank node -
> nothing else
> pfps gavin: I'll put together the result into the document
> davidwood The editors will record this corner case in the document.
> sandro editors will include [ ] for blank node graph labels
> pfps gavin: that covers everything I can think of
> Zakim +EricP
> pfps david: N-TRIPLES
> davidwood PROPOSED to publish N-Triples as LCWD
> davidwood q?
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps gavin: comment from Andy re whitespace as a token, the
> situation has gone back and forth
> AndyS <s><p><o>. is legal TTL but not NT. Some may find it odd.
> pfps andy: want the two to be the same
> AndyS <s> <p> <o> . needed in NT.
> pfps gavin: can't allow NL in the middle of triples
> pfps david: date in document is next week
> pfps gavin: that can be changed easily
> ivan +1
> gkellogg +1
> davidwood +1
> TallTed +1
> gavinc +1
> AndyS go for it
> AndyS +1
> Souri +1
> markus +1
> pfps the numerology of "go for it" is obviously +1
> yvesr +1
> sandro +1
> AZ_ +1
> davidwood RESOLVED to publish N-Triples as LCWD.
> Souri sorry, I have another meeting to go at 12noon
> |<-- Souri has left irc.w3.org:6665 <http://irc.w3.org:6665> ("")
> pfps david: try for LC of N-Triples next week
> pfps topic: semantics and concepts
> pfps s/Triples/Quads/
> davidwood ISSUE-140?
> trackbot is looking up ISSUE-140.
> trackbot ISSUE-140 -- RDF Dataset Comparison (Ivan Herman) -- open
> trackbot http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/140
> pfps andy: also need to consider blank nodes shared between the
> graphs - need to move the isomorphism to the outside
> ivan q+
> Zakim sees ivan on the speaker queue
> pfps andy: graph isomorphism is OK, just need to fix this one
> ivan ->
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html
> Pat's definition
> pfps andy: this message has the right change
> AZ_ +1 to Pat's definition
> Zakim -Souri
> pfps david: let's accept Pat's definition
> ivan q-
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> Zakim -EricP
> pfps pfps: looks good to me
> ivan zakim unmute me
> ivan zakim, unmute me
> Zakim Ivan should no longer be muted
> davidwood PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-140 by accepting Pat's
> suggested change documented in
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html
> pfps +1
> AZ_ +1
> gavinc +1
> AndyS +1
> pfps who will make the change?
> davidwood +1
> ivan +1
> gkellogg +1
> TallTed +1
> yvesr +1
> markus +1
> davidwood RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-140 by accepting Pat's
> suggested change documented in
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html
> gavinc Grad students!
> davidwood ACTION: davidwood to apply the resolution to
> ISSUE-140 in Concepts
> trackbot is creating a new ACTION.
> RRSAgent records action 2
> trackbot Created ACTION-283 - Apply the resolution to issue-140
> in concepts [on David Wood - due 2013-08-28].
> ivan zakim, mute me
> Zakim Ivan should now be muted
> pfps david: comments from Jeremy ...
> davidwood Comments Jeremy Carroll
> davidwood rdfs:Graph ? comment and Issue 35:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Jul/0021.html
> davidwood owl:imports, graph names and Issue 38:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Jul/0022.html
> davidwood Turn into issues
> davidwood ISSUE-35?
> trackbot is looking up ISSUE-35.
> trackbot ISSUE-35 -- Should there be an rdf:Graph construct, or
> something like that? -- closed
> trackbot http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/35
> pfps andy: I think that the modeling in his example is somewhat
> dubious
> pfps david: is there a resolution on ISSUE-35?
> pfps pfps: I'm unsure just what Jeremy wants
> pfps david: there is nothing prohibiting making graph names
> denote graphs
> ivan q+
> Zakim sees ivan on the speaker queue
> pfps pfps: Jeremy wants there to be a way to require graph
> names denoting graphs
> pfps david: that proposal has been before the working group and
> has not been approved
> davidwood ack ivan
> Zakim unmutes Ivan
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps ivan: there was a plan to have something like this
> AndyS People write documents, not graphs.
> pfps ivan: ... in a note
> pfps sandro: correct, but I was hoping ...
> pfps david: we need to reply to Jeremy and at least say that a
> similar proposal was rejected and that nothing prohibits this
> AZ_ and there's a plan to make a note on dataset-semantics,
> which I have to finish (ED at
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-dataset/index.html#)
> pfps sandro: and could ask what the minimum is here
> pfps david: and there is a note possibly in progress
> markus +q
> Zakim sees markus on the speaker queue
> davidwood ack markus
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps sandro: jeremy knows this already
> pfps markus: are we planning to added rdf:bounddataset to note
> pfps sandro: that would be in there
> pfps david: a non-arbitrary deadline for the WG would be mid-Nov
> AZ_ q+
> Zakim sees AZ_ on the speaker queue
> pfps sandro: Jeremy might object to proceeeding unless the note
> exists
> pfps david: sandro please respond with history and say that a
> note on the issue will appear later and whether he is OK with that
> pfps Topic: AOB
> AZ_ q-
> Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
> pfps Adjourn
> Zakim -Ivan
> pfps AZ: the note on dataset semantics is in progress since
> January and should be ready by September
> pfps david: please try to finish soon - discussion may take
> some time
> |<-- ivan has left irc.w3.org:6665 <http://irc.w3.org:6665>
> ("bye guys")
> AndyS GTG
> gavinc bye!
> Zakim -gavinc
> gkellogg bye!
> pfps AZ: would be nice if peter or pat could take a look at it
> Zakim -Sandro
> yvesr bye
> Zakim -davidwood
> AndyS ADJOURNED
> Zakim -AZ
> Zakim -TallTed
> Zakim -gkellogg
> Zakim -lanthaler
> pfps what's the magic link to start editing the minutes?
> Zakim -AndyS
> markus bye
> |<-- AZ_ has left irc.w3.org:6665 <http://irc.w3.org:6665>
> ("Page closed")
> |<-- AndyS has left irc.w3.org:6665 <http://irc.w3.org:6665>
> ("Leaving.")
> pfps found it, I think
> |<-- markus has left irc.w3.org:6665 <http://irc.w3.org:6665>
> ("ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130620121849]")
> davidwood pfps, please see the directions at the top of
> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Scribes
> pfps that's obsolete, I think I found the right place, but I'm
> now getting "Internal Server Error"
>
Received on Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:57:55 UTC