- From: Tadej Stajner <tadej.stajner@ijs.si>
- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:04:09 +0100
- To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- CC: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>, Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>
- Message-ID: <50B8BCD9.8080809@ijs.si>
Hi, I suggest the following. It mirrors the functionality in the local
part, but in the spirit of only using pointers as is usually done in
global rules.
-- Tadej
[
*
A required |selector| attribute that contains an absolute selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
which selects the nodes to which this rule applies.
*
An optional |disambigGranularity| attribute that contains a string,
specifying the granularity level of the disambiguation. The value
MUST
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#rfc2119>
be one of the following identifiers: "lexicalConcept",
"ontologyConcept", or "entity". The default value is "entity".
*
At least one of the following:
o
To specify the target type class, exactly one of the following:
+
A |disambigClassPointer| attribute that contains a relative
selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
pointing to a node specifying the type of entity or concept
class behind the selector.
+
A |disambigClassRefPointer| attribute that contains a
relative selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
pointing to a node that holds an IRI that specifies the type
of entity or concept class behind the selector.
o
To specify the target identity, exactly one of the following:
+
When using the addressing mode 1
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#disambiguation-use-cases>:
#
A |disambigSourcePointer| attribute that contains a
relative selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
to a node that holds the string representing the
disambiguation identifier collection source.
#
A |disambigIdentPointer| attribute that contains a
relative selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
to a node that holds the string, representing the
disambiguation identifier for the disambiguation target
that is valid within the specified disambiguation source.
+
When using the addressing mode 2
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#disambiguation-use-cases>:
#
A |disambigIdentRefPointer| attribute that contains a
relative selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
pointing to a node that holds an IRI that represents a
unique identifier for the disambiguation target.
]
On 11/29/2012 5:27 PM, Felix Sasaki wrote:
> Hi all, esp. Mārcis and Tadej (since there are questions for you below),
>
> see the minutes from today's editing call here
>
> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html
>
> and below. Two important questions
>
> 1) Esp. for Mārcis: can you have a look at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0254.html
> question no 2), and tell us what you think?
>
> 2) Esp. for Tadej: you said that in the global section of
> disambiguation we should add disambigSource
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0234.html
> but we realized that we don't know how. In the global section there is
> no mention of "mode 1" and "mode ".
>
> Can you re-write the definition of global in disambiguation
>
> [
>
> *
>
> A required |selector| attribute that contains an absolute selector
> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
> which selects the nodes to which this rule applies.
>
> *
>
> An optional |disambigGranularity| attribute that contains a
> string, specifying the granularity level of the disambiguation.
> The value MUST
> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#rfc2119>
> be one of the following identifiers: "lexicalConcept",
> "ontologyConcept", or "entity". The default value is "entity".
>
> *
>
> At least one of the following:
>
> o
>
> To specify the target type class, exactly one of the following:
>
> +
>
> A |disambigClassPointer| attribute that contains a
> relative selector
> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
> pointing to a node specifying the type of entity or
> concept class behind the selector.
>
> +
>
> A |disambigClassRefPointer| attribute that contains a
> relative selector
> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
> pointing to a node that holds an IRI that specifies the
> type of entity or concept class behind the selector.
>
> o
>
> To specify the target identity, exactly one of the following:
>
> +
>
> A |disambigIdentPointer| attribute that contains a
> relative selector
> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
> pointing to a node that represents a unique identifier for
> the disambiguation target.
>
> +
>
> A |disambigIdentRefPointer| attribute that contains a
> relative selector
> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
> pointing to a node that holds an IRI that represents a
> unique identifier for the disambiguation target.
>
>
> ]
>
> so that the two modes and disambigSource are in here?
>
> Having that by Friday end of business day would be great. We then
> would be finished with the normative parts of the draft.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Felix
>
>
> [1]W3C
>
> [1]http://www.w3.org/
>
> - DRAFT -
>
> MLW-LT editing call
>
> 29 Nov 2012
>
> See also: [2]IRC log
>
> [2]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc
>
> Attendees
>
> Present
> dave, felix, jirka, tadej, karl, Yves_
>
> Regrets
> Chair
> felix
>
> Scribe
> fsasaki
>
> Contents
>
> * [3]Topics
> 1. [4]questions from yesterday
> 2. [5]8.13 External Resource
> 3. [6]8.14 Target Pointer
> 4. [7]8.15 Id Value
> 5. [8]8.16 Preserve Space
> 6. [9]8.17 Localization Quality Issue
> 7. [10]8.18 Localization Quality Rating
> 8. [11]validation of example files
> 9. [12]8.19 MT Confidence
> 10. [13]back to rating data category
> 11. [14]allowed characters + storage size (again)
> 12. [15]going back to rating value
> 13. [16]spec editing topics
> 14. [17]disambigSourcePointer
> * [18]Summary of Action Items
> __________________________________________________________
>
> <scribe> scribe: fsasaki
>
> questions from yesterday
>
> dave sent out mail to confirm confidence score for terminology,
> as discussed yesterday
>
> <Yves_> FWIW: we'll implement confidence it in Okapi in needed
>
> now on action-339
>
> provRef as single URI or list of URI?
>
> "Reference to external provenance information"
>
> "AN IRI" > "A space separated list of IRIs"
>
> <Yves_> then the examples need to be changed too
>
> <Yves_> I reduced them all to a single IRI
>
> "A space (U+0020) separated list of IRIs"
>
> Yves_, currently changing just one example -
> EX-provenance-local-1.xml, to have a space separated list
>
> 8.13 External Resource
>
> nothing on external resource, it seems
>
> 8.14 Target Pointer
>
> nothing on target pointer, it seems
>
> 8.15 Id Value
>
> mail from fredrik
> [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
> lt/2012Nov/0250.html
>
> [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0250.html
>
> <Yves_> +1 for Jirka's comment
>
> changing the id value section to say: "If the attribute xml:id
> is present or id in HTML for the selected node, the value of
> the xml:id attribute or id in HTML MUST take precedence over
> the idValue value."
>
> that's everyting on id value section, it seems
>
> <Yves_> One note for later (Storage Size section): "Dominican
> Replubic" should Dominican Republic" in example
> EX-storageSize-html5-local-1.html
>
> Applying the id value data category to xml:id (in XML) or id
> (in HTML) attributes in global rules is not necessary since
> those attributes are ...
>
> Yves_, thanks, we will take that up later, now 8.16 Preserve
> Space
>
> 8.16 Preserve Space
>
> added a link from "xml:space" to
> [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-white-space
>
> [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-white-space
>
> 8.17 Localization Quality Issue
>
> "locQualityIssuesRefPointer, do not apply to HTML" >
> locQualityIssuesRefPointer does not apply to HTML
>
> "ITS 2.0-compliant tools that use these categories" > "ITS
> 2.0-compliant tools that use these types"
>
> "their internal categories" > "their internal types"
>
> replacing other occurences of "categories" with "types"
>
> 8.18 Localization Quality Rating
>
> felix: looks fine
>
> dave: changed after yesterday's discussion
>
> <Yves_> I have to leave for the office now. I may be back
> online in 20/30 mn (depending on how many coyotes I have to
> fend off on the bike path)
>
> thanks, bye, Yves_
>
> validation of example files
>
> jirka: did add a target for validation
> ... need someone to fix the errors
>
> <scribe> ACTION: felix to check examples found by relax ng
> validation [recorded in
> [21]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-340 - Check examples found by relax
> ng validation [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06].
>
> <scribe> ACTION: felix to check syntax highlighting of html
> examples with focus on quotes - due 31 december [recorded in
> [22]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-341 - check syntax highlighting of
> html examples with focus on quotes [on Felix Sasaki - due
> 2012-12-31].
>
> jirka: now have created xml validation, after last call
> publication will work on html validation
>
> 8.19 MT Confidence
>
> going through the three sections 8.19 MT Confidence, 8.20
> Allowed Characters, 8.21 Storage size
>
> dave: for the example EX-mtConfidence-global-html5-1.html would
> be good to have an example with two different attributes with
> text content, in the same element
> ... e.g. title and alt in an image
>
> <scribe> ACTION: daveL to create mt confidence score example as
> described in
> [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 - due 31
> december [recorded in
> [24]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
>
> [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-342 - create mt confidence score
> example as described in
> [25]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 on David
> Lewis - due 2012-12-31].
>
> [25]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40
>
> back to rating data category
>
> jirka: in spec the locQualityRatingScore value is between 0 and
> 100
> ... yestedays call we said between 0 and 1
> ... which one is true?
>
> <scribe> ACTION: felix to check with yves whether
> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
> [recorded in
> [26]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-343 - Check with yves whether
> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
> [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06].
>
> action-343: also relevant for locQualityRatingScoreThreshold
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-343 Check with yves whether
> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
> notes added
>
> allowed characters + storage size (again)
>
> allowed characters looks fine
>
> "nel for NEXT LINE (U+0085)" - need to check code for nel
>
> seems to be correct
>
> went through all data categories, only topic left is
> locQualityRatingScore value, see above
>
> going back to rating value
>
> yves: phil mentioned that des wanted something between 0-100
> ... from my point of view it doesn't matter
> ... that is, the spec would be right, I didn't change it
>
> spec editing topics
>
> yve: val and quote have strange behavior
>
> "A disambigIdentPointer attribute that contains a relative
> selector pointing to a node that represents a unique identifier
> for the disambiguation target." plus disambigSourcePointer
>
> <scribe> ACTION: felix to write mail today to tadej to confirm
> position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [recorded in
> [27]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-344 - Write mail today to tadej to
> confirm position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [on
> Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06].
>
> disambigSourcePointer
>
> <fsasaki_> need to check with tadej about this
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
> [NEW] ACTION: daveL to create mt confidence score example as
> described in
> [28]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 - due 31
> december [recorded in
> [29]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
> [NEW] ACTION: felix to check examples found by relax ng
> validation [recorded in
> [30]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
> [NEW] ACTION: felix to check syntax highlighting of html
> examples with focus on quotes - due 31 december [recorded in
> [31]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
> [NEW] ACTION: felix to check with yves whether
> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
> [recorded in
> [32]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
> [NEW] ACTION: felix to write mail today to tadej to confirm
> position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [recorded in
> [33]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
>
> [28]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40
>
> [End of minutes]
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