Minutes, 4 Jan 2012 WebFonts WG call

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                 WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

04 Jan 2012

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2012Jan/0003.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          +1.781.970.aaaa, ChrisL, +44.845.397.aabb, Vlad, jfkthame,
          +1.408.536.aacc, cslye, +1.443.895.aadd, tal

   Regrets
   Chair
          Vlad

   Scribe
          Chris

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Happy New Year
         2. [6]WOFF spec edits
         3. [7]Actions
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 04 January 2012

   <scribe> Scribe: Chris

   <scribe> ScribeNick: ChrisL

   Hello Vlad, Happy New Year

   <Vlad> Happy New Year!

Happy New Year

   Vlad: kicking off the new year withsome housekeeping

WOFF spec edits

   Vlad: jfkthame just emailed with somenew edits- not reviewed them
   yet

   <cslye> Is everyone getting a lot of noise on the phone, or is that
   just me?

   jfkthame: removed the stuff about SOR now coveredby CSS3 Fonts

   action-107?

   <trackbot> ACTION-107 -- Jonathan Kew to - WOFF spec edit, remove
   SOR and CORS identified as features at risk -- due 2011-11-23 --
   OPEN

   <trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/107

      [9] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/107

   Vlad: have the edits to CSS3 Fonts een moved to a bublished WD?

   jfkthame: assume that is the plan
   ... we should update sotd
   ... not CR any more. and some edits relative to CR

   ChrisL: willupdate

   Vlad: (asks about publishing an updateed CR)

   jfkthame: edited status to say its not the CR anymore
   ... also removed the CORS feature at risk

   close action-107

   <trackbot> ACTION-107 - WOFF spec edit, remove SOR and CORS
   identified as features at risk closed

   Vlad: action-108?

   action-108?

   <trackbot> ACTION-108 -- Jonathan Kew to - WOFF spec edit, update
   normative reference section -- due 2011-11-23 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/108

     [10] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/108

   jfkthame: also did that

   close action-108

   <trackbot> ACTION-108 - WOFF spec edit, update normative reference
   section closed

Actions

   action-103?

   <trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Chris Lilley to fix metadata* results for
   free passes -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [11]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/103

     [11] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/103

   ChrisL: in progress, needs root access to the test suite server

   action-104?

   <trackbot> ACTION-104 -- Chris Lilley to check on unicorn
   integration of the woff validator -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/104

     [12] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/104

   ChrisL: is that on myself or Tal?

   Vlad: discussed in Rejkjavik

   tal: chris was going to checkfor more documentation as the existig
   stuff is overmy head

   ChrisL: should I set up a 1:1call with the Unicorn folks?

   tal: yes please

   <scribe> ACTION:chris to set up a unicorn call for tal [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]

   <scribe> ACTION: chris to set up a unicorn call for tal [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Set up a unicorn call for tal [on
   Chris Lilley - due 2012-01-11].

   action-106?

   <trackbot> ACTION-106 -- Chris Lilley to run authoring tools against
   the at-tests and make report -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/106

     [15] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/106

   <scribe> done - see
   [16]http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-at/

     [16] http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-at/

   ChrisL: sfnt2woff fails on one.

   jfkthame: have fixed code but not packaged it - want to re-run tests
   to check for regressions

   ChrisL: fontforge fails all tests becauzse of a checksum error

   jfkthame: pointer to bug report?

   ChrisL: will post after the call

   jfkthame: would be interwsted to take a look

   ChrisL: tal can we share the emailwhere you looked into this?

   tal: (checks)
   ... ok

   ua results [17]http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-ua/

     [17] http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-ua/

   ChrisL: all browsers fail the overlap tests and the extraneous data
   tests
   ... ought to be fixed,may be a security issue

   jfkthame: nota serious error butshould be fixed

   Vlad: there were also some metadata processing errors - can those be
   fixed as well?

   jfkthame: unlikely to fix as the firefox addon is just a proof of
   concept and it does not enforce the schema.
   ... no validation

   ChrisL: we need two implementations for displaying metadata

   Vlad: its an optional feature
   ... not displaying is a pass but partial display is a fail

   ChrisL: maybe a chrome addon for a second one. or an ie addon using
   xsd. or add checking using xpath or selectors

   jfkthame: or something that uses a browser code to make a command
   line processor that reads the metadata and makes an html page -
   command line or whatever
   ... could use whatever python or perl could do that - but I'm not an
   xml wizard

   Tal: could add this to the validator
   ... would only display if valid

   ChrisL: is there a relaxng for python?

   Tal: nope. But the woff validator already does this! so this is
   doable
   ... would this count?

   ChrisL: yes

   <scribe> ACTION: tal to add woff metadata display to woff validator
   [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Add woff metadata display to woff
   validator [on Tal Leming - due 2012-01-11].

   ChrisL: who in each browser deals with this code?

   jfkthame: we now use the google otf decoder so thatis where the bugs
   are

   Vlad: who is doing that?

   jfkthame: adam langley I think
   ... several other commiters to that code

   Vlad: so fixing that would hit several

   ChrisL: firefox and dafari and chrome

   jfkthame: depends on timeline for updates

   tal: looking at otf changeog it looks very active

   jfkthame: also we would submit patches
   ... may be able to write the patches

   tal: so they do gsub and gpos now ...

   jfkthame: yes and we have that code

   [19]http://w3c-test.org/framework/details/woff-ua/directory-overlaps
   -003/engine/presto/

     [19] http://w3c-test.org/framework/details/woff-ua/directory-overlaps-003/engine/presto/

   [20]http://w3c-test.org/framework/details/woff-ua/blocks-extraneous-
   data-005/engine/gecko/

     [20] http://w3c-test.org/framework/details/woff-ua/blocks-extraneous-data-005/engine/gecko/

   ChrisL: these are errors, pressed wrong button on the form
   ... I assume trident uses their own code
   ... would be good if they could fix that

   Vlad: will ask Google if they plan to fix this soon, willsee them
   next week

   Topic; next meeting

   ChrisL: I'm travelling next week, in Australia

   Vlad: wil lbe at CS
   ... cancel next week
   ... play by ear for next call

   adjourned

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: chris to set up a unicorn call for tal [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: chris to set up a unicorn call for tal [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: tal to add woff metadata display to woff validator
   [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action03]

   [End of minutes]

-- 
 Chris Lilley   Technical Director, Interaction Domain                 
 W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead
 Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
 Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups

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