WebFonts Working Group Teleconference -- 04 Jan 2012

<trackbot> Date: 04 January 2012

<scribe> Scribe: Chris

<scribe> ScribeNick: ChrisL

Hello Vlad, Happy New Year

<Vlad> Happy New Year!

Happy New Year

Vlad: kicking off the new year withsome housekeeping

WOFF spec edits

Vlad: jfkthame just emailed with somenew edits- not reviewed them yet

<cslye> Is everyone getting a lot of noise on the phone, or is that just me?

jfkthame: removed the stuff about SOR now coveredby CSS3 Fonts

action-107?

<trackbot> ACTION-107 -- Jonathan Kew to - WOFF spec edit, remove SOR and CORS identified as features at risk -- due 2011-11-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/107

Vlad: have the edits to CSS3 Fonts een moved to a bublished WD?

jfkthame: assume that is the plan
... we should update sotd
... not CR any more. and some edits relative to CR

ChrisL: willupdate

Vlad: (asks about publishing an updateed CR)

jfkthame: edited status to say its not the CR anymore
... also removed the CORS feature at risk

close action-107

<trackbot> ACTION-107 - WOFF spec edit, remove SOR and CORS identified as features at risk closed

Vlad: action-108?

action-108?

<trackbot> ACTION-108 -- Jonathan Kew to - WOFF spec edit, update normative reference section -- due 2011-11-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/108

jfkthame: also did that

close action-108

<trackbot> ACTION-108 - WOFF spec edit, update normative reference section closed

Actions

action-103?

<trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Chris Lilley to fix metadata* results for free passes -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/103

ChrisL: in progress, needs root access to the test suite server

action-104?

<trackbot> ACTION-104 -- Chris Lilley to check on unicorn integration of the woff validator -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/104

ChrisL: is that on myself or Tal?

Vlad: discussed in Rejkjavik

tal: chris was going to checkfor more documentation as the existig stuff is overmy head

ChrisL: should I set up a 1:1call with the Unicorn folks?

tal: yes please

<scribe> ACTION:chris to set up a unicorn call for tal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: chris to set up a unicorn call for tal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Set up a unicorn call for tal [on Chris Lilley - due 2012-01-11].

action-106?

<trackbot> ACTION-106 -- Chris Lilley to run authoring tools against the at-tests and make report -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/106

<scribe> done - see http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-at/

ChrisL: sfnt2woff fails on one.

jfkthame: have fixed code but not packaged it - want to re-run tests to check for regressions

ChrisL: fontforge fails all tests becauzse of a checksum error

jfkthame: pointer to bug report?

ChrisL: will post after the call

jfkthame: would be interwsted to take a look

ChrisL: tal can we share the emailwhere you looked into this?

tal: (checks)
... ok

ua results http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-ua/

ChrisL: all browsers fail the overlap tests and the extraneous data tests
... ought to be fixed,may be a security issue

jfkthame: nota serious error butshould be fixed

Vlad: there were also some metadata processing errors - can those be fixed as well?

jfkthame: unlikely to fix as the firefox addon is just a proof of concept and it does not enforce the schema.
... no validation

ChrisL: we need two implementations for displaying metadata

Vlad: its an optional feature
... not displaying is a pass but partial display is a fail

ChrisL: maybe a chrome addon for a second one. or an ie addon using xsd. or add checking using xpath or selectors

jfkthame: or something that uses a browser code to make a command line processor that reads the metadata and makes an html page - command line or whatever
... could use whatever python or perl could do that - but I'm not an xml wizard

Tal: could add this to the validator
... would only display if valid

ChrisL: is there a relaxng for python?

Tal: nope. But the woff validator already does this! so this is doable
... would this count?

ChrisL: yes

<scribe> ACTION: tal to add woff metadata display to woff validator [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-webfonts-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Add woff metadata display to woff validator [on Tal Leming - due 2012-01-11].

ChrisL: who in each browser deals with this code?

jfkthame: we now use the google otf decoder so thatis where the bugs are

Vlad: who is doing that?

jfkthame: adam langley I think
... several other commiters to that code

Vlad: so fixing that would hit several

ChrisL: firefox and dafari and chrome

jfkthame: depends on timeline for updates

tal: looking at otf changeog it looks very active

jfkthame: also we would submit patches
... may be able to write the patches

tal: so they do gsub and gpos now ...

jfkthame: yes and we have that code

http://w3c-test.org/framework/details/woff-ua/directory-overlaps-003/engine/presto/

http://w3c-test.org/framework/details/woff-ua/blocks-extraneous-data-005/engine/gecko/

ChrisL: these are errors, pressed wrong button on the form
... I assume trident uses their own code
... would be good if they could fix that

Vlad: will ask Google if they plan to fix this soon, willsee them next week

Topic; next meeting

ChrisL: I'm travelling next week, in Australia

Vlad: wil lbe at CS
... cancel next week
... play by ear for next call

adjourned

- DRAFT -

WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

04 Jan 2012

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Contents

Happy New Year

WOFF spec edits

Actions

Summary of Action Items

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