Minutes, 25 March 2015 webfonts wg call

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                 WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

25 Mar 2015

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Vlad, ChrisL, kuettel, RSheeter, khaledhosny, jdaggett

   Regrets
          JKew

   Chair
          vlad

   Scribe
          ChrisL

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]recent spec changes
         2. [5]evaluation report
         3. [6]charter
         4. [7]face to face
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________

   <trackbot> Date: 25 March 2015

   Google holds kuettel , RSheeter

   <scribe> scribenick: ChrisL

   Vlad: thanks for the review comments, kuettel

recent spec changes

   kuettel: looking for one change ....

   Vlad: will upload new version after the call
   ... made the change you suggested in email
   ... edited the font collections part, did you see?

   ChrisL: JKew and i were not that far appart, sure it is fine
   ... I was fine with Jkew's suggestions

   Vlad: second para of section 5.4

   <khaledhosny> Hi

   ChrisL: changes in 5.4 look good to me

   close action-166

   <trackbot> Closed action-166.

   close action-167

   <trackbot> Closed action-167.

   Vlad: several editorial notes that need to be addressed
   ... when to send the iana registration?

   ChrisL: when we publish this draft for wide review
   ... I can send in the registration request

   Vlad: (updates draft in realtime to cvs)

   <khaledhosny> I’m still trying to figure out how to configure
   my SIP client

   ChrisL: needs a changes section

evaluation report

   Vlad: kuettel has an open action on mobile performance
   ... next chrome is instrumented?

   kuettel: chrome 42 waiting to reach stable for large scale
   collection. we have some early data
   ... maybe make another action item, need to measure
   decompression times* speeds, also the ram useage
   ... so we should make a new action

   <scribe> ACTION: RSheeter to measure ram useage for woff2 vs.
   woff1 [recorded in
   [9]http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-168 - Measure ram useage for woff2
   vs. woff1 [on Roderick Sheeter - due 2015-04-01].

   ChrisL: currently we have just handwaving on ram useage
   ... (summarizes RE changes)

   kuettel: half the gain is from preprocessing, and cff does not
   get any of that

   Vlad: cff is itself compressed

   kuettel: brotli still does a better job, similar to ttf on that
   step

   Vlad: data is already packed

   <scribe> ACTION: ChrisL to explain cff compression has no
   preprocessing so less gain [recorded in
   [10]http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html#action02
   ]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-169 - Explain cff compression has no
   preprocessing so less gain [on Chris Lilley - due 2015-04-01].

   kuettel: would like to see the same font in cff and tt/otf to
   do some a/b comparisons

   Vlad: can tell you that on average cff is about half the
   equivalent tt glyph data

   kuettel: yes but after compression
   ... the cff corpus was larger but maybe it has larger coverage

   Vlad: also depends on degree of hinting of TT outlines

   resolved: publish WOFF2 with edits discussed

   resolved: publish WOFF2 evaluation report with edits discussed

   (unanimous)

charter

   Vlad: charter expires soon

   ChrisL: charter announcement will go out tomorrow, we have 2
   more years

   Vlad: hope conformance tests will not take that long

   RSheeter: khaledhosny is here!

   (welcomes)

   <kuettel> Whoohoo!

face to face

   Vlad: we did play to meet at atypi this year
   ... this is ot 14-17 in sao paolo

   [11]http://www.atypi.org/atypi-sao-paulo-2015-2013-call-for-pre
   sentations

     [11] http://www.atypi.org/atypi-sao-paulo-2015-2013-call-for-presentations

   kuettel: there are local google offices we might be able to use

   Vlad: should i ask the conf organisers
   ... also the tpac meeting in Sapporo japan

   26-30 oct

   ChrisL: unlikely to meet 2 weeks later

   Vlad: unles atypi does not work

   are we shooting for before or after atypi?

   Vlad: we wore wondering about a CTS kickoff meeting during the
   end of sprig

   <khaledhosny> I think I lost connection

   Vlad: will sumarize aditional CTS statements in spec
   ... we need another review cycle

   some may need to be reworded, a few are a bit vague regarding
   testing

   ChrisL: maybe in Boston, will be there start of june.

   week of 8 june is good for me

   kuettel: last meeting was very productive

   RSheeter: working on tests already done and ones needing review
   ... if it says "the same as woff1" we can use the woff1 tests

   ChrisL: yes

   kuettel: khaledhosny any sense on how far throughin terms of
   initial tests?

   <scribe> ACTION: RSheeter to give estimate of initial number of
   tests started [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html#action03
   ]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - Give estimate of initial number
   of tests started [on Roderick Sheeter - due 2015-04-01].

   Vlad: once we enforce due dates then it is formal

   <khaledhosny> ChrisL: woff1 tests that are still applicable to
   woff2 have been mostly ported

   (adjourned)

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: ChrisL to explain cff compression has no
   preprocessing so less gain [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html#action02
   ]
   [NEW] ACTION: RSheeter to give estimate of initial number of
   tests started [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html#action03
   ]
   [NEW] ACTION: RSheeter to measure ram useage for woff2 vs.
   woff1 [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html#action01
   ]

   [End of minutes]

-- 
Best regards,
 Chris Lilley, Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain

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