19:59:50 RRSAgent has joined #webfonts 19:59:50 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-irc 19:59:52 RRSAgent, make logs world 19:59:52 Zakim has joined #webfonts 19:59:54 Zakim, this will be 3668 19:59:54 ok, trackbot; I see IA_Fonts()4:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute 19:59:55 Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference 19:59:55 Date: 25 March 2015 20:00:39 IA_Fonts()4:00PM has now started 20:00:45 kuettel has joined #webfonts 20:00:47 +Vlad 20:01:25 ChrisL has joined #webfonts 20:01:59 +??P3 20:02:14 +ChrisL 20:02:26 RSheeter has joined #webfonts 20:02:28 zakim, who is there? 20:02:28 I don't understand your question, ChrisL. 20:02:33 zakim, who is here? 20:02:33 On the phone I see Vlad, ??P3, ChrisL 20:02:35 On IRC I see RSheeter, ChrisL, kuettel, Zakim, RRSAgent, Vlad, jdaggett, trackbot 20:02:45 zakim, ??P3 is Google 20:02:45 +Google; got it 20:03:06 Google holds kuettel , RSheeter 20:03:18 zakim, Google holds kuettel, RSheeter 20:03:18 +kuettel, RSheeter; got it 20:05:32 regrets: JKew 20:05:52 scribenick: ChrisL 20:06:12 Vlad: thanks for the review comments, kuettel 20:06:35 topic: recent spec changes 20:06:53 kuettel: looking for one change .... 20:07:10 Vlad: will upload new version after the call 20:07:25 ... made the change you suggested in email 20:07:51 Vlad: edited the font collections part, did you see? 20:08:04 khaledhosny has joined #webfonts 20:08:21 ChrisL: JKew and i were not that far appart, sure it is fine 20:08:38 ChrisL: I was fine with Jkew's suggestions 20:08:58 present+: khaledhosny, jdaggett 20:09:16 Vlad: second para of section 5.4 20:09:52 Hi 20:10:15 ChrisL: changes in 5.4 look good to me 20:10:22 close action-166 20:10:22 Closed action-166. 20:10:34 close action-167 20:10:34 Closed action-167. 20:11:28 Vlad: several editorial notes that need to be addressed 20:12:07 Vlad: when to send the iana registration? 20:12:34 ChrisL: when we publish this draft for wide review 20:12:49 ChrisL: I can send in the registration request 20:13:03 Vlad: (updates draft in realtime to cvs) 20:14:01 I’m still trying to figure out how to configure my SIP client 20:14:08 ChrisL: needs a changes section 20:14:46 topic: evaluation report 20:15:01 Vlad: kuettel has an open action on mobile performance 20:15:11 ... next chrome is instrumented? 20:15:34 kuettel: chrome 42 waiting to reach stable for large scale collection. we have some early data 20:16:11 ... maybe make another action item, need to measure decompression times* speeds, also the ram useage 20:16:45 kuettel: so we should make a new action 20:17:28 action: RSheeter to measure ram useage for woff2 vs. woff1 20:17:28 Created ACTION-168 - Measure ram useage for woff2 vs. woff1 [on Roderick Sheeter - due 2015-04-01]. 20:18:18 ChrisL: currently we have just handwaving on ram useage 20:20:20 ChrisL: (summarizes RE changes) 20:20:46 kuettel: half the gain is from preprocessing, and cff does not get any of that 20:20:57 Vlad: cff is itself compressed 20:21:16 kuettel: brotli still does a better job, similar to ttf on that step 20:21:35 Vlad: data is already packed 20:22:20 action: ChrisL to explain cff compression has no preprocessing so less gain 20:22:20 Created ACTION-169 - Explain cff compression has no preprocessing so less gain [on Chris Lilley - due 2015-04-01]. 20:22:43 kuettel: would like to see the same font in cff and tt/otf to do some a/b comparisons 20:23:05 Vlad: can tell you that on average cff is about half the equivalent tt glyph data 20:23:15 kuettel: yes but after compression 20:23:36 kuettel: the cff corpus was larger but maybe it has larger coverage 20:24:05 Vlad: also depends on degree of hinting of TT outlines 20:25:05 resolved: publish WOFF2 with edits discussed 20:25:18 resolved: publish WOFF2 evaluation report with edits discussed 20:25:52 (unanimous) 20:26:57 topic: charter 20:27:10 Vlad: charter expires soon 20:28:52 +??P4 20:29:02 ChrisL: charter announcement will go out tomorrow, we have 2 more years 20:29:55 Vlad: hope conformance tests will not take that long 20:30:13 RSheeter: khaledhosny is here! 20:30:18 (welcomes) 20:30:21 Whoohoo! 20:30:44 topic: face to face 20:31:02 Vlad: we did play to meet at atypi this year 20:31:38 ... this is ot 14-17 in sao paolo 20:31:55 http://www.atypi.org/atypi-sao-paulo-2015-2013-call-for-presentations 20:32:09 kuettel: there are local google offices we might be able to use 20:32:19 Vlad: should i ask the conf organisers 20:32:53 Vlad: also the tpac meeting in Sapporo japan 20:33:28 26-30 oct 20:33:51 ChrisL: unlikely to meet 2 weeks later 20:34:01 Vlad: unles atypi does not work 20:34:51 are we shooting for before or after atypi? 20:36:14 Vlad: we wore wondering about a CTS kickoff meeting during the end of sprig 20:36:47 I think I lost connection 20:36:58 Vlad: will sumarize aditional CTS statements in spec 20:37:07 ... we need another review cycle 20:37:40 some may need to be reworded, a few are a bit vague regarding testing 20:38:28 +??P11 20:38:42 ChrisL: maybe in Boston, will be there start of june. 20:38:57 zakim, ??P11 is khaledhosny 20:38:57 +khaledhosny; got it 20:39:20 week of 8 june is good for me 20:39:32 kuettel: last meeting was very productive 20:40:12 RSheeter: working on tests already done and ones needing review 20:40:15 -khaledhosny 20:40:29 RSheeter: if it says "the same as woff1" we can use the woff1 tests 20:40:32 ChrisL: yes 20:41:03 kuettel: khaledhosny any sense on how far throughin terms of initial tests? 20:42:13 action: RSheeter to give estimate of initial number of tests started 20:42:14 Created ACTION-170 - Give estimate of initial number of tests started [on Roderick Sheeter - due 2015-04-01]. 20:42:56 Vlad: once we enforce due dates then it is formal 20:43:17 ChrisL: woff1 tests that are still applicable to woff2 have been mostly ported 20:43:34 (adjourned) 20:43:39 zakim, list attendees 20:43:39 As of this point the attendees have been Vlad, ChrisL, kuettel, RSheeter, khaledhosny 20:44:09 rrsagent, make minutes 20:44:09 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html ChrisL 20:44:56 -ChrisL 20:45:00 rrsagent, make minutes 20:45:00 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html ChrisL 20:45:06 -Vlad 20:45:08 -Google 20:45:14 chair: vlad 20:45:25 rrsagent, make minutes 20:45:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/25-webfonts-minutes.html ChrisL 21:05:02 disconnecting the lone participant, ??P4, in IA_Fonts()4:00PM 21:05:02 IA_Fonts()4:00PM has ended 21:05:02 Attendees were Vlad, ChrisL, kuettel, RSheeter, khaledhosny