Minutes of QAWG/IG f2f meeting, 21-23 October 2003, Boulder, Colorado, USA

Table of Contents

About the meeting

Read the logistic page and detailed agenda for details this meeting.

This joint QA WG/IG meeting was hosted by NIST in Boulder, Colorado.

Participants

Below is the list of participants to the meeting, along with their initials (used at some points in the minutes.

The following joined part of the meeting by phone :

October 21st, morning

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Patrick Curran

The Full minutes for this part of the meeting are available in the QAWG mailing-list archives.

Discussion on membership & recruiting

The QAWG needs more participants, and the rechartering of the group is a good time to attract new members.

The group discussed and planned recruitment among W3C members.

Inreach/Outreach

Inreach

Outreach

Reviewing activities and plans for outreach (of good Web practices more than other deliverables of the QA Activity)

Plans for next Technical Plenary

The next Technical plenary meeting will be held 1-5 March 2004, in Cannes-Mandelieu, France. The group discussed meeting other groups face to face.

October 21st, afternoon

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Karl Dubost

The Full minutes for this part of the meeting are available on the QA Web site.

QA Panel at WWW2004

We discussed David Marston's proposal of a QA panel at the upcoming WWW conference. People agreed it was a good idea. The discussion then moved to detailssuch as which topics to cover, which people to invite, etc.

David was invited to proceed with this project.

Tools

Olivier reported on the QA-dev Structure. The discussion later moved to a presentation of a small experimental test framework for one of the tools developed in this structure, and then on to more general discussions on test frameworks, test description language(s) and EARL.

projects at NIST

Lynne reported on new contracted work at nist, involving QAWG members (Lofton and Dimitris) and very closely related to our work. The QAWG expects to re-use most if not all of the deliverables from these projects, which should be completed by the end of June/July 2004.

General discussion about QAWG/IG

General discussion about the logistics of the working group, (management of the action items and their deadlines), as well as planning "rotating guest chairs" for some of our teleconferences

October 22nd, morning

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Dominique Hazael-Massieux

The Full minutes for this part of the meeting are available in the QAWG mailing-list archives.

SpecGL CR Plan

The group discussed a plan for the nest step of Specifications Guidelines: its publication as a Candidate Recommendation.

Ops CR Plan

Planning our coordination with other groups. Following them (and helping them) as they implement OpsGL should give us good feedback during our CR phase.

Short package of selling points

The group started discussing an inreach (towards W3C Working groups) strategy for both Ops and Spec GL, starting with Spec, which should be easier to sell. We tried to identify a few selling points, starting with what was used at the latest Technical Plenary meeting.

TestGL discussion

The group starting reading through and discussing a draft of Test GL, with Patrick leading the discussion.

Among the topics/sections addressed:

October 22nd, afternoon

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Sandra Martinez

The Full minutes for this part of the meeting are available in the QAWG mailing-list archives.

TestGL discussion

The discussion and review of the draft of Test GL continued, covering guidelines 1 to 4.

October 23rd, morning

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Lynne Rosenthal

The Full minutes for this part of the meeting are available in the QAWG mailing-list archives.

TestGL discussion

The discussion and review of the draft of Test GL continued, covering guidelines 4 to 6

Test Case Description Language

The group had a closer look to the proposal by Dave Marston for a Test Description Language. It seemed worth developing and having in our "toolbox", but apart from Dave, the the WG lacks resources to develop it.

October 23rd, afternoon

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Lofton Henderson

The Full minutes for this part of the meeting are available in the QAWG mailing-list archives.

Visit of NIST

Test Case Description Language

The group finished discussing this topic and reached a resolution : asking David to clarify IPR about his contribution and finish the incomplete parts as soon as practical. The group would then publish it as a WG note.

Future meetings

Planning the next f2f meeting (during the next Technical Plenary in Cannes-Mandelieu in March 2004) and scheduling teleconferences.

APPRECIATION

The QAWG/IG expresses sincere thanks to NIST for hosting a great meeting & providing excellent facilities, and thanks to Lynne Rosenthal for (personally) providing refreshments.

Meeting adjourned.


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