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Bug 9799 - Syntax of <ol@type> and <ul@type> should be aligned with CSS list-style-type
Summary: Syntax of <ol@type> and <ul@type> should be aligned with CSS list-style-type
Alias: None
Product: WHATWG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: HTML (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All All
: P3 enhancement
Target Milestone: Unsorted
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
: 11001 (view as bug list)
Depends on: 9798
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Reported: 2010-05-22 16:29 UTC by Leif Halvard Silli
Modified: 2013-05-30 23:58 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Description Leif Halvard Silli 2010-05-22 16:29:39 UTC
Bug 9798 says that @type for <ol> and <ul> should be permitted. 

This bug suggests the syntax for the type attribute,


General: change from HTML4 values to CSS values

For <ul> the HTML4 values are indentical with CSS2, and thus can remain. 
In addition the CSS value "none" should also be permitted.

FOr <ol>, the HTML4 values  should become deprecated/obsoleted:

The HTML4 values for ol@type:  1,a,A,i,I
New values from CSS2: decimal | decimal-leading-zero | lower-roman | upper-roman | lower-greek | lower-latin | upper-latin | armenian | georgian | lower-alpha | upper-alpha | none

The value "inherit" should not be permitted.

JUSTIFICATION:  It is practical to have just one value set - namely that of CSS.


Webkit: the CSS synonyms for the HTML4 values, are already supported - other CSS values are not supported. (Interaction with default CSS may cause bugs, however). 

In Gecko: The CSS synonyms for the HTML4 values are already supported. But disabling CSS removes support for @type, regardless of whether it contains CSS values or HTML4 values. 

Opera: supports the HTML4 values - but not the CSS values. Doesn't matter if CSS is enabled or if one disables CSS (to disable CSS, I disable any styling in  "user mode"  - see the Stylesheet menu under the View menut - I don't know if there is a way to disable CSS more fundamentally).

IE: Only support the HTML4 values. The support is not affected if one disables CSS for the current page.
Comment 1 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2010-08-18 01:25:47 UTC
I doubt we'll be able to do this, given back-compat, but we should probably at least investigate.
Comment 2 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2010-09-24 14:59:55 UTC
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Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: I looked into this but on balance I think we're better off not doing this (yet). I'm loathe to introduce synonyms, so for <ol type> I'm skeptical about doing it at all. For <ul type> the only addition at this point would be "none" and I don't see the use of that. Maybe once CSS3 Lists is more complete, we can revisit this, though.
Comment 3 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2010-10-12 10:12:09 UTC
*** Bug 11001 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Michael[tm] Smith 2013-01-24 07:50:34 UTC
This bug was cloned to create HTML WG bug 19022.
Comment 5 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2013-03-19 23:25:19 UTC
Tab, what's the status of CSS lists? And what do you think of this suggestion?
Comment 6 Tab Atkins Jr. 2013-03-19 23:46:51 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Tab, what's the status of CSS lists? And what do you think of this
> suggestion?

This doesn't need anything particular from Lists.  If you want to reference some counter styles, the Counter Styles spec is going to be LC in a week or two. <>

I have no particular opinion on this bug.  It looks like its compat information is wrong - WebKit doesn't seem to recognize any of the CSS names in the type attribute.
Comment 7 Leif Halvard Silli 2013-03-20 00:40:50 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> (In reply to comment #5)

> It looks like its compat information is wrong - WebKit
> doesn't seem to recognize any of the CSS names
> in the type attribute.

Pedantic: I understand why you read me that way - it is probably the word "other" that creates that impression. But, actually, I only claimed it to work in Gecko, and only for the values that have paralell HTML4 values.
Comment 8 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2013-03-20 05:07:21 UTC
Tab: Sorry, yeah, I meant the counter styles spec.

I'm reluctant to do this unless there's a compelling reason. I haven't really seen one so far.
Comment 9 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2013-05-30 22:27:29 UTC
I'm marking this WONTFIX. There doesn't seem to really be a compelling use case and it introduces a lot of redundancy.