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In native UI, progress bars sometimes have an associated piece of text that could be considered a label. For example, in a download manager showing multiple progress bars, the item name would likely be the label. Particularly if <progress> is changed to only support setting the progresss programatically and not declaratively via markup, it should be labelable like a form control.
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(Also, are ARIAs various labeling mechanisms adequate for this? If not, why not?)
It does not apply to <video>, <iframe> or <embed>, as the closest equivalents to those do not normally have labels in native UI. I think it would equally apply to <meter>. I don't know enough about the intended rendering and use of <output> to be sure, but it probably does need to be labeled. aria-labeledby would work OK, however, and is not materially different from using <label> for elements that do not take focus or react to clicks. I'm happy to withdraw the request if you think it's ok to have that be the recommended approach for particular built-in controls. If that's your position, feel free to mark WONTFIX. Reopening for further disposition.
I guess I'll make <meter> and <progress> into proper form controls (and move them to the form controls section), and make them and <output> labelable.
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Checked in as WHATWG revision r4531. Check-in comment: Make <progress>, <meter>, and <output> labelable with <label>. http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=4530&to=4531
The HTML Accessibility Task Force intends to track these issues, per the proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0245.html.
Looks good to me.
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/20080513_bugs/results#xq12 Remove Task Force tracking of this bug. Original submitter may pursue it further if they wish, though it appears this one has been resolved satisfactorily.