W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force

02 December 2025

Attendees

Present
Adam, Arie, curt, Jamesn, Jem, Joe, Jongund, Mck
Regrets
-
Chair
Matt King
Scribe
jamesn

Meeting minutes

Agenda check-in

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/December-2%2C-2025-Agenda

publication planning

Matt_King: There is a link to the milestone in the agenda. The target is to get the PRs in the milestone ready by the 16th so they can be published on the 17th

Matt_King: one is aspirational - there are 5 in total

Matt_King: #2991 is the aspirational one

#3213 - there are 3 requested reviews but I think this is done but the reviewers haven't posted their reviews yet

Adam_Page: I have reviewed this a few times at different steps

Matt_King: looking for a thumbs up

arigilmore: I can too

arigilmore: don't have an android device to test

Adam_Page: I do have one so can do that

Matt_King: #3374 is waiting on me

<Jem> https://deploy-preview-443--aria-practices.netlify.app/aria/apg/about/at-support-tables/

Matt_King: #3386 going to be looking for some reviewers next week

Matt_King: need to ensure the 17th works for publication. Daniel was checking for w3c team availability to publish

2026 Meeting time and schedule

Matt_King: do we want to keep the time? or should we run a poll

Adam_Page: I'd like to see a poll as I have collisions at this time

CurtBellew: earlier would be better for me

<Adam_Page> +1 to bi-weekly

Matt_King: weekly vs bi-weekly - was thinking how nice it would be to have APG and ARIA-AT both bi-weekly

<Jem> +1

Matt_King: there have been times when weekly meetings were very helpful - but other times when an off week would have worked very well

<CurtBellew> +1

Matt_King: trying to do things to keep the examples current - we have prioritized based on demand. All subject to change based on the group membership.

<Adam_Page> +1 to a dedicated Slack channel

<discussion of where to have async chat - slack vs other places>

going to use the #aria-apg channel on w3c slack servers

will go bi-weekly

poll on meeting time

Issue 3193: listbox example with aria-actions

CurtBellew: should be able to review this week

Matt_King: because this is an experimental example we may not need to be as strict

Guidance on focusability of disabled controls

w3c/aria-practices#2318

Matt_King: general agreement that the spirit is good but needs some additional clarification.

Matt_King: the spirit was "it depends"

Matt_King: and that wasn't coming through clearly enough in how it was written and it sounded more prescriptive than intended

Adam_Page: I've increasingly avoided disabling elements - as it is a weird design decision that things can be made partially perceivable to some users

Adam_Page: found a few places where there is perhaps more strong guidance than intended

w3c/aria-practices#2318 (comment)

Adam_Page: no suggestions but just called them out in the above comment

Adam_Page: would be happy to start a PR and offer some suggestions

<jongund> Got to go early today.

Adam_Page: will push a PR

Issue 3373: "Read this first" uses client-side JavaScript

Matt_King: there is a path forward - if someone can read the issue and discern the path in terms of a PR - then that would be great

Matt_King: this is not near the top of my priority list - and Daniel is not here so don't know where it fits on w3c side

Jem: my concern about no Boucoup is many infra issues we'll have to deal with

Jem: need to think about how we will maintain these things

Matt_King: will add P2

<Jem> https://www.w3.org/2025/12/02-aria-apg-minutes.html

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