W3C

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Introducing the Cybernetic Avatar Community Group: Extending Human Presence through the Internet

12 November 2025

Attendees

Present
chiara_cerretti, Daiya_Kato, David Fazio, David_Fazio, Elena_Lape, Hiromu_Ogawa, Jay_Kishigami, Kunihiko_Toumura, Lucerio_Macedo, Masaaki_Sato, naomi, Neha_Manik_Jadhav, Osamu_Nakamura, Shubham_Gubta, Takumi_Ishiahra, Tatsuya_Hayash, Tetsuhiko_Hirata, Tetsuya, tzviya, Yasushi_Minoya, Yumi_Dobashi
Regrets
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Chair
Daiya Kato, masaaqi
Scribe
naomi

Meeting minutes

sato: Mooshot project
… it sets goals to attack the prople and promotes challenging
… aiming of resolving difficult social issues
… bring together the wsdom of researchers from all over the world, not only Japan
… it's a realization of a society in which human beings
… can be free from limitation of boy, brain, space and time
… by 2050
… enabling the circulation, sharing, and expansion of experience
… skills for more diverse and rich lives
… CA life by casting from our vision
… anyone willing to augument their physical and perceptional capabilities to the top level and spread of new life
… our vision is towards an era where people can excel beyond physical space

Lucerio: metaverse type?

sato: yes

[sato is howing a video]

<takuan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0NjMfUod10

<Fazio> This has some interesting valid use cases but is also dangerous in the sense that the robots are used to replace the physical presence of a person with a disability

sato: we have been talking to WebRTC group

<daiya> Fazio, We believe it is essential to value and respect each individual’s will to participate in society or to reintegrate into it. Therefore, we treat privacy and the authenticity of one’s actions as particularly important and fundamental issues in our research.

[page 4]

sato: Okinawa to Tokyo is about 1500 km
… latency is less than 1.5 sec

[page 6]

sato: this is why we want to have this project
… using existing lines
… we adopt emerging technologies
… physical delays can't be reduced
… we want to deply this system to the society as a global platform
… is there anything beyond the web?
… web is the best thing
… that's why we are here for this project
… future vision: Beyond the Maneuverability
… enabling action is autonomy
… assisting remote operations and actions
… gaining experience couldn't been happened thru @1
… integration CA into other platform such as robot arm, we'll seek a killer apps
… discussion on how to collaborate to collaborate with AI between human

[page 18]

sato: let's talk about integration of CA and the web
… CA and human as a supporting communications
… to begin with, discuss how the concept of the CA could relate to existing or future web standards
… how W3C community might help define its role within the broader Internet ecosystem
… consider how human embodiment, communication, and agency may evolve through connected systems and how open, ethical and inclusive frameworks could support this transformation

Lucerio: interesting, but warning from me
… this could be interpreted in a wrong way
… it might keep people in a bed room
… having interaction thru robot
… there is no replacement
… bandwidth?
… for example Stephen Hawking
… we shouldn't be taking people from an environment
… but this is wonderful project
… for example, a robot hugs you, how people feel it?
… feedback is needed

kato: haptics is important
… we consider about risks
… and threats

David_Fazio: it will be ok having robot in a life

kato: ethic is another issue
… we haven't solve that idea

Lucerio: are you collaborating with people with ethics?

sato: yes

Neha: have you explored people such as low vision?

kato: not yet. we are now working for physical and psychological part

[sato showing video about hugging and how human feels thru robot]

sato: he performed at Tokyo Olympics thru Orihime

kato: as well as Japanese Expo in Osaka

kato: he is using brain machine interface

<takuan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR5dxd_H6E8

kato: grabbing is very difficult for now though

Elena: latency?
… imagining use cases for grabbing apple is ok but others?

sato: we are discussing it. less than 100 milisecond
… including glass to glass

Elena: eye predict?

sato: yes
… for now, less than 30 secs thru glass to glass delay

sato: this is a starting point for discussion

osamu: based on the web or special apps?

sato: some tech will be thru WebRTC

kato: Orihime is using WebRTC
… and others will be using different technology
… because robot engineering select right now

sato: we want to promote the web technologies on the Internet
… web is a gateway for engineers

Hirata: joining WebRTC WG?

sato: assuming so

Hirata: great idea. I always think where is the platform for IT
… for social activities
… WebRTC only?

sato: WoT would also be the place to discuss
… we need to consider about authentication, security, ecosystem, etc
… we will talk to WGs
… now we are collecting use cases
… Muto-san's case is edge one
… communication robot will be the first one

Chiara: do you have an interaction designer?

sato: yes, and communication designer will be needed as well

kato: 30% engineer and we need to have academia and expert for ethical and law
… plus robot engineer

David: I work with European robotics in the classroom. I don't think any robot apps for child

Chiara: we are from Australia. it's nice system for children don't talk
… we should get a new system
… Australia first import and modify and edit

sato: external Japanese robot is kawaii
… we are also talking how to provide this for educational environment

Lucerio: very interesting. look forward to the updates

Elena: what's the next big thing? release?

sato: we will gather use cases between CA and the web

Yumi_Dobashi: if CA tech applies to the society in medical settings like rehabilitation

sato: in the discussion

Yumi_Dobashi: any tools is ok

kato: please join the CG

https://www.w3.org/community/cacg/

sato: and share us use cases

Lucerio: you should apply to Zero-project

<naomi> s/@3@/chiara/

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No scribenick or scribe found. Guessed: naomi

Maybe present: Chiara, David, Elena, Hirata, kato, Lucerio, Neha, osamu, sato

All speakers: Chiara, David, David_Fazio, Elena, Hirata, kato, Lucerio, Neha, osamu, sato, Yumi_Dobashi

Active on IRC: breakout-bot, daiya, Fazio, hirata, naomi, takuan, tantek-projector, tzviya