W3C

– DRAFT –
Data Shapes WG

10 November 2025

Attendees

Present
AndyS, bergos, caribou, DavidHabgood, edmond, elianaP, Livio, Matt, mgberg, nicholascar, Ognjen, Robert, SimonW, TallTed
Regrets
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Chair
elianaP
Scribe
SimonW

Meeting minutes

nicholascar: Has been chipping away at tasks. See status for Core review. ticked off some items. privacy & security yet to do.

nicholascar: comments: Mainly process comments. No substantial comments.

nicholascar: Some groups say finishing by end of year will be tough

nicholascar: Profiles update: Profiles of SHACL, invites others to add to potential profiles of SHACL

nicholascar: dependency hierarchy, some questions need answering from other groups, then take advice and discuss.

nicholascar: How are profile generators semantically classified?

bergos: Is it for the group to create other profiles? Docs for outsiders?

nicholascar: We will have a repo with our work and community work.

<nicholascar> The place to put community SHACL resources: w3c/shacl-resources

nicholascar: Guidance will be provided. Link to repo provided above

elianaP: SHACL UI?

<AndyS> Rules content - https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/discussions/637

elianaP: Things are moving forward - good to see - with SHACL UI

AndyS: Link posted above. Discussions with Profiles starting up.

<Livio> w3c/data-shapes#643

Livio: some overlapping Rules & Profiling. We should discuss how to cluster or bundle shapes and data. Commenting should happen in issues.

AndyS: The packaging is related to Profiles. No ordering

AndyS: Rules begins at "here's a rule set and base data. execute rule". Things around that are application dependant.

nicholascar: We don't have a section on ordering and sequencing. Maybe we should?

nicholascar: Use cases for ordering and sequencing?

elianaP: no update on Compact Syntax

elianaP: Call on consensus on publication of 1st draft. Profiling doc ready?

nicholascar: Not yet. Few weeks off - maybe less

AndyS: Ready to publish Rules doc. Issues can be noted earlier rather than later.

nicholascar: if it's easier to do several at one go then Profiling can be ready

nicholascar: Maybe proposals for new sections included

caribou: yes we can publish half empty doc.

caribou: Publishing early might be better. We can publish as soon as something is close enough to ready.

elianaP: How does UI feel about publishing first draft

bergos: Need better structure. Better to wait.

bergos: maybe in 4 weeks

elianaP: Only RULES is enthusiastic about publishing ? let's take vote in a few weeks for others

elianaP: Any other points?

elianaP: No other points. Thanks for attending.

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All speakers: AndyS, bergos, caribou, elianaP, Livio, nicholascar

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