W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

09 October 2025

Attendees

Present
Addison, Atsushi, Bert, Fuqiao, JcK, Joel, Richard
Regrets
Eemeli
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
xfq, atsushi

Meeting minutes

<eemeli> With apologies, I'll need to skip today.

Agenda Review

Action Items

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues

<addison> #186

<gb> Action 186 file issue with CLDR and report progress related to east asian widths in html#11616 (on jsahleen) due 2025-10-02

<addison> https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-19047

joel: I got some comments on the CLDR side
… they have recognized that this is an issue and are investigating

<addison> close #186

<gb> Closed issue #186

joel: they've raised the priority to major

<addison> #185

<gb> Action 185 follow up with PLH on automating TC39 repos (on aphillips) due 2025-10-02

joel: it took a while to get them to understand what the actual issue was

<addison> #171

<gb> Action 171 revise local-font-access to exclude localhost and talk more about opt-in model (on ZainabAq) due 2025-05-22

joel: I found that the best way was that I just created a simple HTML page with a number input
… and I set the value property to something that had a full-width decimal separator in it, and you get the error
… that finally convinced them, and they're working on it

<addison> close #171

<gb> Closed issue #171

joel: they have a big i18n team

ACTION: addison: ping GOOG again for participation

<gb> Created action #187

<addison> #135

<gb> Action 135 follow up on XR issue 1393 about locale in session (on aphillips) due 2024-10-17

<addison> #33

<gb> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)

<addison> #7

<gb> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023

<addison> #4

<gb> Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips) due 27 Jul 2023

Info Share

r12a: I've been working on creating new orthography descriptions and related data

<r12a> https://typo.social/@ri

r12a: Tangsa, Makasar, Syloti Nagri
… I'm trying to stick with scripts that are currently in use, rather than do the historic scripts
… Makasar is not quite in that category, however
… having done all the major scripts, I'm now reaching down into the endangered scripts

Review RADAR Review

<addison> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

addison: I noticed that the list of charters seems to be relatively longish
… maybe some of those could be closed?
… DAPT?
… moving to awaiting comment resolution

Pending Issue Review

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending

webauthn 1693

<addison> webauthn#1693

<gb> MERGED Pull Request 1693 Change "create any credentials" to "create any assertions" in get() description (by emlun) [type:editorial]

<addison> webauthn#1643

<gb> CLOSED Issue 1643 Use of in-field metadata not preferred (by aphillips) [type:technical] [i18n-needs-resolution] [stat:pr-open] [@Risk]

w3c/i18n-activity#1396

<gb> Issue 1396 Use of in-field metadata not preferred (by aphillips) [close?] [s:webauthn] [needs-resolution] [t:bidi_strings] [t:lang_strings] [wg:webauthn]

[xfq introduces the issue]

addison: they did take our comment
… and then they invented this wacky encoding scheme
… and we said "no dont' do that"\
… so they are deprecating that mechanism
… which is good
… but they didnt' introduce separate metadata fields and won't do so until L4
… they have a complicated rationale for compat

jsahleen: do we know what the timeline is?

addison: judging by how long it took to get L3 done, we'll be having this discussion in a few years

<addison> close i18n-activity#1396

<gb> Cannot close issue #1396 -> ghurlbot does not have the correct permissions to execute `CloseIssue`

Number, currency and unit formatting article

<addison> w3c/i18n-drafts#693

<gb> Pull Request 693 Initial draft on number, currency, and unit formatting (by xfq)

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/blob/xfq/issue-410/questions/qa-number-format.en.md

addison: number, currency, and unit formatting draft

xfq: comparing to last time, changed question to dynamical formatting of javascript
… also did some editorial fixes
… start conversion to html and started wide review

addison: asked people to review while ago
… asked for any objection also

ACTION: xfq: convert number formatting article to html and publish to wide review

<gb> Created action #188

addison: giving action to gain wide review

addison: one thing during previous stage, providing a page to play in
… show people what you will gain, I have some javascript demo somewhere

r12a: related question, to get tests for these

https://www.w3.org/International/i18n-tests/#interactive

xfq: link above

r12a: [describing how interactive test works]

xfq: we do use in our gap analysis documents

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/i18n-tests/results/int-text-decoration.html

[discussion with sharing screen of demo]

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/articles/vertical-text/index.en.html

<jsahleen> Some coding examples for a talk I did at Spotify. https://codepen.io/collection/qOomwg

AOB?

addison: any other items for today?

Summary of action items

  1. addison: ping GOOG again for participation
  2. xfq: convert number formatting article to html and publish to wide review
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All speakers: addison, joel, jsahleen, r12a, xfq

Active on IRC: addison, atsushi, eemeli, JcK, jsahleen, r12a, xfq