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13:40:26 <addison> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:40:39 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/915fa514-e515-43e4-a90d-b67a10850129/20251009T150000/
13:40:39 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:40:39 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:40:39 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:40:41 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:40:43 <agendabot> agenda+ Review RADAR Review
13:40:45 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issue Review
13:40:48 <agendabot> agenda+ Number, currency and unit formatting article
13:40:50 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:41:04 <addison> agenda+ webauthn 1693
13:41:20 <eemeli> With apologies, I'll need to skip today.
13:41:20 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:41:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
13:43:16 <addison> regrets+ Eemeli
13:57:45 <addison> present+ Addison
13:57:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
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13:59:13 <addison> present+ Joel
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14:02:21 <addison> present+ Fuqiao, Atsushi
14:03:05 <addison> present+ Bert, Richard
14:03:32 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:03:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/09-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:04:01 <xfq> scribe: xfq
14:04:19 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:04:19 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:04:21 <addison> agenda?
14:04:45 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:04:45 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:04:53 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues
14:05:02 <addison> #186
14:05:02 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/186 -> Action 186  file issue with CLDR and report progress related to east asian widths in html#11616 (on jsahleen) due 2025-10-02
14:05:39 <addison> https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-19047
14:05:56 <xfq> joel: I got some comments on the CLDR side
14:06:08 <xfq> ... they have recognized that this is an issue and are investigating
14:06:12 <addison> close #186
14:06:13 <gb> Closed -> issue #186 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/186
14:06:15 <xfq> ... they've raised the priority to major
14:06:16 <addison> #185
14:06:17 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/185 -> Action 185  follow up with PLH on automating TC39 repos (on aphillips) due 2025-10-02
14:06:29 <xfq> ... it took a while to get them to understand what the actual issue was
14:06:44 <addison> #171
14:06:45 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/171 -> Action 171 revise local-font-access to exclude localhost and talk more about opt-in model (on ZainabAq) due 2025-05-22
14:06:46 <xfq> ... I found that the best way was that I just created a simple HTML page with a number input
14:07:13 <xfq> ... and I set the value property to something that had a full-width decimal separator in it, and you get the error
14:07:23 <xfq> ... that finally convinced them, and they're working on it
14:08:11 <addison> close #171
14:08:12 <gb> Closed -> issue #171 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/171
14:08:19 <xfq> ... they have a big i18n team
14:08:21 <addison> action: addison: ping GOOG again for participation
14:08:28 <gb> Created -> action #187 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/187
14:08:35 <addison> #135
14:08:36 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/135 -> Action 135  follow up on XR issue 1393 about locale in session (on aphillips) due 2024-10-17
14:08:42 <addison> #33
14:08:43 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 -> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)
14:08:57 <addison> #7
14:08:58 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 -> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
14:09:32 <addison> #4
14:09:32 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 -> Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips) due 27 Jul 2023
14:09:42 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:09:42 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:09:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:10:04 <r12a> q+
14:10:08 <addison> ack next
14:10:17 <JcK> present+ JcK
14:10:38 <xfq> r12a: I've been working on creating new orthography descriptions and related data
14:10:43 <r12a> https://typo.social/@ri
14:11:20 <xfq> ... Tangsa, Makasar, Syloti Nagri
14:11:53 <xfq> ... I'm trying to stick with scripts that are currently in use, rather than do the historic scripts
14:12:05 <xfq> ... Makasar is not quite in that category, however
14:12:24 <xfq> ... having done all the major scripts, I'm now reaching down into the endangered scripts
14:12:37 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:12:37 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Review RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:12:48 <addison> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1
14:13:19 <xfq> addison: I noticed that the list of charters seems to be relatively longish
14:13:50 <xfq> ... maybe some of those could be closed?
14:13:55 <xfq> ... DAPT?
14:14:04 <xfq> ... moving to awaiting comment resolution
14:14:23 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:14:23 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:14:31 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
14:14:46 <addison> agenda?
14:14:55 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
14:14:55 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- webauthn 1693 -- taken up [from addison]
14:15:02 <addison> webauthn#1693
14:15:03 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1693 -> MERGED Pull Request 1693 Change "create any credentials" to "create any assertions" in get() description (by emlun) [type:editorial]
14:15:32 <addison> webauthn#1643
14:15:32 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1643 -> CLOSED Issue 1643 Use of in-field metadata not preferred (by aphillips) [type:technical] [i18n-needs-resolution] [stat:pr-open] [@Risk]
14:15:34 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1396
14:15:34 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1396 -> Issue 1396 Use of in-field metadata not preferred (by aphillips) [close?] [s:webauthn] [needs-resolution] [t:bidi_strings] [t:lang_strings] [wg:webauthn]
14:15:41 <addison> s/1693/1643/
14:17:29 <xfq> [xfq introduces the issue]
14:17:40 <xfq> addison: they did take our comment
14:17:49 <xfq> ... and then they invented this wacky encoding scheme
14:17:58 <xfq> ... and we said "no dont' do that"\
14:18:15 <xfq> ... so they are deprecating that mechanism
14:18:20 <xfq> ... which is good
14:18:38 <xfq> ... but they didnt' introduce separate metadata fields and won't do so until L4
14:18:50 <xfq> ... they have a complicated rationale for compat
14:19:41 <xfq> jsahleen: do we know what the timeline is?
14:20:00 <xfq> addison: judging by how long it took to get L3 done, we'll be having this discussion in a few years
14:20:05 <addison> close i18n-activity#1396
14:20:06 <gb> Cannot close issue #1396 -> ghurlbot does not have the correct permissions to execute `CloseIssue`
14:20:30 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:20:31 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Number, currency and unit formatting article -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:20:48 <atsushi> scribe+
14:20:58 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/693
14:20:58 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/693 -> Pull Request 693 Initial draft on number, currency, and unit formatting (by xfq)
14:21:18 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/blob/xfq/issue-410/questions/qa-number-format.en.md
14:21:20 <atsushi> addison: number, currency, and unit formatting draft
14:21:47 <atsushi> xfq: comparing to last time, changed question to dynamical formatting of javascript
14:21:56 <atsushi> ... also did some editorial fixes
14:22:21 <atsushi> ... start conversion to html and started wide review
14:22:29 <atsushi> addison: asked people to review while ago
14:22:42 <atsushi> ... asked for any objection also
14:23:26 <addison> action: xfq: convert number formatting article to html and publish to wide review
14:23:27 <gb> Created -> action #188 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/188
14:23:32 <atsushi> addison: giving action to gain wide review
14:23:43 <addison> agenda?
14:24:19 <atsushi> addison: one thing during previous stage, providing a page to play in
14:24:44 <r12a> q+
14:24:47 <atsushi> ... show people what you will gain, I have some javascript demo somewhere
14:25:04 <addison> ack next
14:25:24 <atsushi> r12a: related question, to get tests for these
14:25:51 <xfq> https://www.w3.org/International/i18n-tests/#interactive
14:26:04 <atsushi> xfq: link above
14:26:31 <atsushi> r12a: [describing how interactive test works]
14:27:31 <atsushi> xfq: we do use in our gap analysis documents
14:27:41 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/i18n-tests/results/int-text-decoration.html
14:28:48 <atsushi> [discussion with sharing screen of demo]
14:29:42 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/articles/vertical-text/index.en.html
14:30:46 <jsahleen> Some coding examples for a talk I did at Spotify. https://codepen.io/collection/qOomwg
14:31:20 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
14:31:20 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:31:38 <atsushi> addison: any other items for today?
14:32:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:32:19 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:32:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/09-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:32:27 <addison> zakim, bye
14:32:27 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Joel, Fuqiao, Atsushi, Bert, Richard, JcK
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