Meeting minutes
Steven add override condition for help hint and alert
<https: //www.w3.org/2025/04/25-forms-minutes#4885>
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Steven: UI Common in a way is not really common. Should we rename, or do something else?
Erik: We call it HHLA
Steven: Of course alert on an item or a case has no role, though it does no harm.
Steven: Rename?
Steven: They are all labelling elements, just one is always visible, and three under certain states
Erik: Aria uses other terms for the things, but I don't see that they have an encompassing name for all of them.
Steven: Common description elements?
Erik: Description could work or similar.
ACTION: Suggest name for descriptive elements
Writing to nodes
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Steven: I want to check we agree
… No writing to the root node
<Steven> s/No/
Steven: namespace etc, is undefined
… how about action-error if for instance <input> writes to a node with children
Erik: No it shouldn't be action-error
Erik: Namespace nodes are weird.
… maybe gone from xpath already
AOB
Steven: Next meeting 23rd, 30th, none on 6th June
… my XForms tutorial got accepted for MarkupUK
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S?No/No/