W3C

– DRAFT –
Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

03 March 2025

Attendees

Present
Eric_hind, Jan, JeanneEC, Jennie, julierawe, kirkwood, Rain, tiffanyburtin
Regrets
EA
Chair
-
Scribe
Eric, Eric_hind

Meeting minutes

Disccusing stucture for github and editors

<lisa> going through https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GwIadQU2rmDwqPDeYX6PF7UjnD4D47vqRjvPysXNe-A/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.6y663m9rkxiy

<lisa> lisa: can we use the icons from the last version

<lisa> as a screen grab

<lisa> rain: tiffany and len are working on icons

<lisa> lisa: can we use screen gabs as place holders

<lisa> rain: i can give you what we used by day end

<lisa> i can also give a style guide with some css

<lisa> Lisa: we can use basic class name

<lisa> rain: we are tweeking languase at the same time

<lisa> [ and ] are placeholders

<lisa> we have a newly proposed patter on search

<lisa> we have a process for patterns

<lisa> we have a document for new proposals for new paterns or changes

<lisa> do you know our style guid?

<lisa> Rain: our stlye guide is css

<lisa> there is a spread sheet with franki for all the patterns

<lisa> 20 muinits per patern if we are not critical review of the text

<lisa> editorial reviews are needed

<lisa> Rain: I can be ready for a first editors call on tuesday

<Lisa> scribe?

<Lisa> next item

Rain: Review of new structure and usable for those who use Making Content Usable (usable)

<Rain> Slide deck with recommendations resulting from the research: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1aOyK6N5coRlT1ZA7SZNp4w4sP7ynxBNNT2HBUt4NCOQ/edit#slide=id.g31aadb93ea3_0_573

Rain: Presented slide deck from research recommendations.

Rain: Moving the proposal into a production environment is going to require edits and editorial decisions - we are discovering pockets of contents that may not fit in the new format.

Rain: Need to account for all text changes - red highlighted text indicates changes needed. Purple text can be skipped for now. (from Making Content Usable V2 Structure -- text)

<Lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/Understanding/captions-live.html

Rain: We will have linked text/documents for individual patterns that will have highlights in the same editable red (text highlight indicates change) and purple (skip for now)

<Lisa> from understing link at https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/#captions-prerecorded

<Lisa> 4.2.1.2 What to Do

<Lisa> Help the user know the purpose of the content. Use:

<Lisa> a clear title or heading that summarizes the purpose of a page, or

<Lisa> other clear signposts that have been tested by users with cognitive and learning disabilities.

<tiffanyburtin> +1 to Jeanne

Rain: Reviewed the format and meaning of this metadata on the document. General comments on format pluses and minuses of the format were discussed.

<Lisa> +1

<Lisa> +1 to rain

<Lisa> that the summaries are both easy to understand and exsact

<tiffanyburtin> +1 Rain

<Jennie> +1 to Rain

Rain: We do want this document to be more understandable, the experience of migrating to a production version will not be perfect. Lisa: We will generate methodology as we go along

<JeanneEC> +1

<JeanneEC> Broad audience

<Lisa> +1 keep a broud target audence not everyone is a profetions

<Rain> +1 (acknowledging that this is more challenging, but worth it)

<tiffanyburtin> +1

<Jennie> +1

<Eric_hind> +1

<julierawe> +1

<Jan> +1

<Zakim> tiffanyburtin, you wanted to discuss Charli

Lisa: All agreed that keep a broad audience perspective is important.

Rain: Reviewed the participant from the study, their role, experience, AT usage

Rain: For tomorrow, there is a spreadsheet created for helping out (sign up sheet)

<Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkyRIP3CAuZ-JAazUOAUI64TYCrEfOkKSeBg94mMOkg/edit?resourcekey=0-HM4QyycKbkfCwWAXzIymrw&tab=t.0#heading=h.r41c7s95qgu

Lisa: Note that there are two places for suggestions, best place to capture research suggestions was in the Issues document (includes feedback from GitHub issues, other sources)

Lisa: There is a template for full pattern suggestions as well.

<Lisa> next item

Lisa: Next steps, meetings this week as related to the migration.

<kirkwood> +1

Lisa: Propose a group meeting to help coordinate. Tomorrow at 8 EST for 2-3 hours?

julierawe: Maybe 9 AM EST?

<Jan> I would like to be involved, but can’t make it tomorrow. Will there be other working meetings?

<JeanneEC> +1 to 9am EST or later

Rain: Any meeting, any time will be helpful to start the process

Lisa: Will try for 9AM start (EST)

Lisa: Will try to add a meeting to W3C calendar.

<kirkwood> sure +1

<tiffanyburtin> We might need two batches of people to work at an earlier time, and then again at a later time possibly.

Lisa: Start with 9AM Tuesday EST, then maybe add other meetings, such as the editors time slot

<Lisa> next item

Lisa: Update, any not in daylight savings time, be aware that most of north America is changing soon.

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Maybe present: Lisa

All speakers: julierawe, Lisa, Rain

Active on IRC: Eric_hind, Jan, JeanneEC, Jennie, julierawe, kirkwood, lisa, Lisa, Rain, tiffanyburtin