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14:58:01 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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14:58:26 <lisa> q?
15:02:19 <lisa> Topic: Disccusing stucture for github and editors
15:04:52 <lisa> going through https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GwIadQU2rmDwqPDeYX6PF7UjnD4D47vqRjvPysXNe-A/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.6y663m9rkxiy
15:08:07 <lisa> lisa: can we use the icons from the last version
15:08:16 <lisa> as a screen grab
15:08:39 <lisa> rain: tiffany and len are working on icons
15:09:21 <lisa> lisa: can we use screen gabs as place holders
15:09:42 <lisa> rain: i can give you what we used by day end
15:10:06 <lisa> i can also give a style guide with some css
15:10:57 <lisa> Lisa: we can use basic class name
15:11:14 <lisa> rain: we are tweeking languase at the same time
15:11:43 <lisa> [ and ] are placeholders
15:13:06 <lisa> we have a newly proposed patter on search
15:13:27 <lisa> we have a process for patterns
15:13:47 <lisa> we have a document for new proposals for new paterns or changes
15:14:26 <lisa> do you know our style guid?
15:14:55 <lisa> Rain: our stlye guide is css
15:18:27 <lisa> there is a spread sheet with franki for all the patterns
15:18:45 <lisa> 20 muinits per patern if we are not critical review of the text
15:19:11 <lisa> editorial reviews are needed
15:26:58 <lisa> Rain: I can be ready for a first editors call on tuesday
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15:49:45 <Lisa> Agenda?
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15:52:03 <Lisa> Q?
15:56:10 <Lisa> scribe?
15:56:36 <Lisa> scribe: Eric
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16:01:39 <Eric_hind> Scribe+ Eric_hind
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16:03:08 <Lisa> next item
16:03:10 <Rain> present+
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16:06:01 <Eric_hind> Rain: Review of new structure and usable for those who use Making Content Usable (usable)
16:06:57 <Lisa> Agenda+ adding the proposals from reaserch
16:07:00 <kirkwood> present+
16:07:06 <Rain> Slide deck with recommendations resulting from the research: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1aOyK6N5coRlT1ZA7SZNp4w4sP7ynxBNNT2HBUt4NCOQ/edit#slide=id.g31aadb93ea3_0_573
16:07:08 <Eric_hind> Rain: Presented slide deck from research recommendations.
16:08:39 <Eric_hind> Rain: Moving the proposal into a production environment is going to require edits and editorial decisions - we are discovering pockets of contents that may not fit in the new format.
16:10:26 <Lisa> regrets+ EA
16:10:29 <Eric_hind> Rain: Need to account for all text changes - red highlighted text indicates changes needed. Purple text can be skipped for now. (from  Making Content Usable V2 Structure -- text)
16:10:35 <Lisa> Q?
16:10:58 <Lisa> Q+
16:13:52 <Lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/Understanding/captions-live.html
16:14:11 <Eric_hind> Rain: We will have linked text/documents for individual patterns that will have highlights in the same editable red (text highlight indicates change) and purple (skip for now)
16:14:13 <Lisa> from understing link at https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/#captions-prerecorded
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16:16:28 <tiffanyburtin> Present+
16:17:59 <Lisa> Q?
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16:18:31 <Lisa> 4.2.1.2 What to Do
16:18:31 <Lisa> Help the user know the purpose of the content. Use:
16:18:31 <Lisa> a clear title or heading that summarizes the purpose of a page, or
16:18:31 <Lisa> other clear signposts that have been tested by users with cognitive and learning disabilities.
16:18:34 <Jan> present+
16:28:36 <tiffanyburtin> q+
16:28:45 <JeanneEC> q+
16:28:57 <Lisa> q-
16:29:06 <Lisa> ack next
16:29:46 <Lisa> q+
16:30:13 <Lisa> ack next
16:31:23 <tiffanyburtin> +1 to Jeanne
16:31:25 <Eric_hind> Rain: Reviewed the format and meaning of this metadata on the document.    General comments on format pluses and minuses of the format were discussed.
16:33:17 <Rain> q+
16:34:05 <Lisa> q-
16:34:18 <Lisa> ack next
16:35:10 <Lisa> +1
16:35:18 <Lisa> +1 to rain
16:35:35 <Lisa> that the summaries are both easy to understand and exsact
16:36:12 <tiffanyburtin> +1 Rain
16:36:19 <Jennie> +1 to Rain
16:38:19 <tiffanyburtin> q+ for Charli
16:38:29 <Eric_hind> Rain: We do want this document to be more understandable, the experience of migrating to a production version will not be perfect.  Lisa: We will generate methodology as we go along
16:39:14 <JeanneEC> +1
16:39:23 <JeanneEC> Broad audience
16:39:23 <Lisa> +1 keep a broud target audence not everyone is a profetions
16:39:35 <Rain> +1 (acknowledging that this is more challenging, but worth it)
16:39:36 <tiffanyburtin> +1
16:39:39 <Jennie> +1
16:39:40 <Eric_hind> +1
16:39:42 <julierawe> +1
16:39:42 <Jan> +1
16:40:08 <Lisa> q?#
16:40:19 <Lisa> ack next
16:40:20 <Zakim> tiffanyburtin, you wanted to discuss Charli
16:40:30 <Eric_hind> Lisa: All agreed that keep a broad audience perspective is important.
16:42:25 <Rain> q+
16:43:41 <Lisa> ack next
16:46:54 <Eric_hind> Rain: Reviewed the participant from the study, their role, experience, AT usage
16:48:10 <Eric_hind> Rain: For tomorrow, there is a spreadsheet created for helping out (sign up sheet)
16:49:02 <Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkyRIP3CAuZ-JAazUOAUI64TYCrEfOkKSeBg94mMOkg/edit?resourcekey=0-HM4QyycKbkfCwWAXzIymrw&tab=t.0#heading=h.r41c7s95qgu
16:49:30 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Note that there are two places for suggestions, best place to capture research suggestions was in the Issues document (includes feedback from GitHub issues, other sources)
16:50:10 <Eric_hind> Lisa: There is a template for full pattern suggestions as well.
16:50:34 <Lisa> next item
16:51:39 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Next steps, meetings this week as related to the migration.
16:52:52 <kirkwood> +1
16:53:24 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Propose a group meeting to help coordinate.  Tomorrow at 8 EST for 2-3 hours?
16:53:56 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Maybe 9 AM EST?
16:54:34 <Jan> I would like to be involved, but can’t make it tomorrow. Will there be other working meetings?
16:54:49 <JeanneEC> +1 to 9am EST or later
16:55:04 <Eric_hind> Rain: Any meeting, any time will be helpful to start the process
16:55:40 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Will try for 9AM start (EST)
16:56:02 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Will try to add a meeting to W3C calendar.
16:56:14 <kirkwood> sure +1
16:56:48 <tiffanyburtin> We might need two batches of people to work at an earlier time, and then again at a later time possibly.
16:57:36 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Start with 9AM Tuesday EST, then maybe add other meetings, such as the editors time slot
16:57:40 <Lisa> next item
16:59:15 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Update, any not in daylight savings time, be aware that most of north America is changing soon.
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