W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-WG/IG

22 January 2025

Attendees

Present
Ben_Francis, Charith_Perera, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Jan_Romann, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
Ege
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz

Meeting minutes

Guests, New Members ad IEs

McCool: no guest today

Minutes

Jan-15

McCool: talking with the old IE applicants
… also Koster is working on the IE policy
… (goes through the minutes)

(McCool has trouble with electricity, and Kaz starts to show the agenda/minutes for McCool.)

McCool: Ben is here to have discussion on Profile today
… minutes themselves seem ok
… the text for Profile should say "Profile moving into inactive for now until we resolve the TF leader"

Kaz: fixed

(minutes approved)

Quick items

McCool: inclusiveness of the Binding registry
… (gives summary of the discussion so far)

Ege's latest summary

McCool: latest comments from Ege for Issue 393 summarizing the discussion so far above
… potential issues listed here
… given Ege is not here, just referring to the situation for today

Notices/Meetups

McCool: anything specific?

WoT CG

(none)

WoT JP CG

(none)

Smart Cities

McCool: Intel has joined the IG
… Kaz is organizing the Doodle for the IG call

Cloud-Edge

McCool: launch in progress

Liaisons

ECHONET

(none)

Conexxus

McCool: Annual conf this week

David: nothing new right now but trying to get manufacturers interested

McCool: clarification question. not changing the Things but adding metadata?

David: right
… this is how we can implement RESTful services

McCool: would have test cases first
… if we could see the gaps, would be helpful

David: that's part of the reason we're working on smart safe

McCool: maybe we can document the points :)

OPC

McCool: next meeting on Jan 28
… Sebastian is not here today

ETSI ISG CIM

McCool: liaison call on Monday, Jan 20
… talking about the resources/documents, etc.
… might be relevant to the smart cities discussion
… possible use cases around smart cities
… the call on Jan 27 will be cancelled
… the next meeting will be in 2 weeks

Kaz: getting use cases is important

McCool: need to work on concrete use cases

Schedule

Holidays

McCool: no big changes
… but please review it
… several holidays on Monday

Policies

McCool: Koster, policy for IEs?

Koster: there is a PR there

PR 1224 - Create invited-expert.md

McCool: please review the PR offline

Koster: got comments from Ege

McCool: possible change from Member to IE
… to be documented also
… to be discussed next week

rendered MD

Koster: (goes through the draft quickly)
… for Chairs and Team Contact to identify the IEs
… a couple of thing defined here
… Requirements:
… contributions are expected
… initial presentation and then regular participation
… Process:
… need fleshing out
… decision within 2-3 weeks

McCool: definition of preliminary invitation, etc.

McCool: link to the application form to be added
… need to clarify the procedure so that the IE applicants can understand it

Koster: would be good to clarify the steps one by one

McCool: minimum requirements for participation, e.g., one hour for meeting

Koster: yeah
… probably 2-3 hours a week

McCool: yeah, that's fine
… everyone, please give your comments on the PR

Kaz: good starting point
… note that we should be kind of strict about the evaluation :)

TF Leads

Profile

McCool: several separate problems
… Luca's participation and possible new TF Lead
… if someone can volunteer, we should have a specific policy too
… also should discuss how much time to be allocated for TF leads

Ben: wanted to ask a question
… myself as a tentative TF lead, e.g., for 6 months
… publish an updated WD or a Note
… gave a proposal/question last year

David: conexxus is interested in Profile
… probably would be helpful for us
… someone probably would join the TF

McCool: several issues here
… Conexxus' participation is great
… but maybe we should look into potential use cases for Profile a bit more
… the purpose is improving the out-of-box interoperability
… if you have time commitment, please work on that

David: bunch of people potentially would work

McCool: please be careful about what you specifically want to work on

McCool: regarding your possible TF lead for 6 months
… is that feasible?

Ben: yes
… but just some concern about the WG's support, etc.

McCool: yeah
… there is still some confusion about what Profile really should be

<benfrancis> wot-profile PR 417 - A start on use cases and requirements for Profiles 2.0

Ben: I've worked on that as above

McCool: let's review that again
… there are requirements for WoT interoperability
… Profile 1.0 is a Note, so Profile 2.0 would make more sense
… actual constraints for applications of TDs
… publishing an updated version of Profile 1.0 Note and get community inputs is also useful, though
… anyway, let's ask people for review
… WoT Profile would be useful for WoT interoperability
… the question is that we don't have a consensus yet

Kaz: ok
… let's ask people to review this PR 417
… my question is when to revisit this topic

McCool: need Ben's participation

Cristiano: would like to see progress on Profile

McCool: David, you're also interested. right?

David: out-of-box interoperability is important
… would like to understand WoT Profile first
… anyway, I'd like to join the discussion

McCool: would be useful for cloud integration, etc.

David: PCI constrain is an issue
… would be good to capture those issues

McCool: any other comments?

Daniel: the idea behind WoT Profile is good
… would agree it would be good to think about better integration between Profile 2.0 and TD 2.0

Mizushima: use cases and requirements should be discussed by the UC TF

McCool: technically, that's true but getting Ben's help for Profile would be useful
… probably relevant to work on possible use cases for Profile
… Ben, is today's discussion helpful for you?

Ben: yeah
… the question is that we don't have enough use cases and requirements for WoT Profile 2.0 yet

McCool: yeah, the updated use cases document would have user story, etc.

Kaz: sorry but we're already out of time
… so let's have some more discussion with Ben offline
… and then clarify when to have the discussion during the main call again (and let everybody know about that)

McCool: yeah, let's do so

Ben: Please email Ben at Krellian.com with any further comments

[adjourned; no TD call today]

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